Does Usyk's last performance affects his ranking on an ATG heavyweights list?

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Is usyk overrated?

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  1. DubbleJab

    DubbleJab Member Full Member

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    Does Mike Tyson's loss to Jake Paul impact his legacy?
     
  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Or to Danny Williams? Or to Kevin McBride?

    And Usyk didn't even loose.
     
  3. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i agree with your take on the situation and overall grasp of reality.
    yes it affects his standing, how much will depend on how the rest of his and ricos careers pan out. everyone saw what fury was being called before reality came a knockin. it wouldn't affect usyk to the same degree, as his skills are legit, but that was not a p4p performance.
    what surprised me the most was usyks inability to adapt. rico wasnt in there reinventing the wheel, he was making numerous technical mistakes that were obviously exploitable, and got away with it. elite fighters dont let you get away with it. i have to assume usyks head was not in the fight. which can happen to anybody. especially under the pre fight perceptions of the fight.
    we will see how each one does in their next fight. that will tell us more on where each one stands in the big picture.
     
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  4. Jakub79

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    There is a difference: the Tyson who fought Jake Paul was 30 years removed from his world title reign and 40 years past his prime. Even against McBride, he was long past his prime. Usyk, on the other hand, was a reigning champion who had looked better than ever in his previous fight. That situation was more like the Buster [Douglas] fight—which admittedly affects Mike’s legacy—but the Usyk case is worse, because Ngannou and Rico exposed the weaknesses of modern heavyweight boxing. And no one can claim Usyk reigned during boxing's golden era; the examples of Frank and Rico will be irrefutable arguments against that.
     
  5. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    It exposed nothing. Usyk is 39 years old, and won the fight by stoppage.d

    Kevin McBride would be a better parallel.

    39 years old, 350 amateur fights, 25 pro. He's at the end.
     
  6. Jakub79

    Jakub79 Active Member Full Member

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    But at the time of the fight against Rico, he was the undisputed heavyweight leader, whereas Tyson wasn't even ranked. Rico himself is only four years younger than Usyk and has fought more ring wars than him.
     
  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Uysk has had 350 amateur fights. And even most of Rico's professional matches are 3-5 rounds. Rico is not even in the ballpark of wear and tear. Usyk has literally had a comparable numbers of fights as Rico has had rounds.

    And this is the problem--the false narratives that are being perpetuated.
     
  8. DiPiro

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    yes he did, lets be real.
     
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  9. DiPiro

    DiPiro New Member Full Member

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    what I think is that Usyk underestimated Rico because he is a kickboxer. What I know is that Usyk is way past his prime , but he managed to drop and stop rico. I also know that Usyk never lost to a bunch of bums like mike tyson or featherfisted journeyman like Young.
     
  10. Jakub79

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    Didn't he have all those fights you're mentioning before the second fight with Dubois?
     
  11. Loudon

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    James Douglas wasn’t in any way a bum.
     
  12. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All of Usyk's top work at heavyweight occurred over a 4 year period, that's not really a big enough span of time to count as an era

    If it did than Tyson could claim to be the best of his era based on a similar period of dominance

    If Itauma turns out to be better than Usyk people may start to question if Usyk could beat him in 2024/25
     
  13. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Didn't Usyk knock Rico out ?
     
  14. catchwtboxing

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    Regardless, he beat the #2, #3, and #4 amongst all fighters from 2015-2026. Remarkable.
     
  15. catchwtboxing

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    It all gets you at once. Happens the same for all of them. Its almost a cliche to "get old" in one fight.