Which Heavyweight Is Possibly Overrated Because Of Nostalgia?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Is there one or more heavyweight s that you believe is vastly overrated, purely because of rose tinted spectacles?
     
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    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    Usyk.
     
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Jack Johnson
     
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    Liston- bit of a weight bully. People predicting he would excel today when his best opponents were 189-199 pound.

    Holmes- never unified, rarely fought a #1 contender, certainly never gave a rematch on a controversial fight, very lackluster resume. "I like fighting little guys for big money." We know, Larry. We know.

    WladKlit- awful, awful era that he split with his brother

    Dempsey- well, sort of. He's a bit out of fashion these days. But really, this guy who fought less than once a year and never got Wills in the ring was some kind of great champion?
     
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    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jeffries. Fought a bunch of small guys and refused to defend against a black fighter.
     
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    An argument can be made for Dempsey due to his management holding him to the color line.
     
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    No one who won the heavyweight title should be considered “over rated”…they earned their place in history.
     
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    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I believe Dempsey would have fought Wills if allowed. Jeffries was just terrified in my opinion.
     
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    You are not wrong, but he is one of those who is a bit problematic to say is "overrated" because he's not exactly that highly rated.
     
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    Quite a few of them are pretty equally overrated on nostalgic prestige to be honest. In fact almost every heavyweight champion has fans who do it.
     
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    All. Every one of them.
     
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    Definitely Ali.

    A lot of people won't even consider the idea of Lewis, Wlad, Vitali, Marciano, Holmes, etc beating him. It's just muscle memory to pick Ali over everyone except 50/50 with Tyson and 75/25 against Louis.
     
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    Jeffries was considered to be invincible in his day. Now we understand he was an oaf with his main skill being the ability to get beaten bloody and survive.
     
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    Ray Mercer, Chris Byrd and David Tua are the holy trinity of overrated HW's.

    Jerry Quarry and Cleveland Williams have large cult followings but I don't think nostaglia has much to do with either.
     
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    Good call. He often got favourable decisions against his more formidable foes. If he'd dropped two fights to Norton, and the fight to Shavers, I don't think his mystique would be nearly as high ... and those fights could be argued to have gone his opponents' way. There's this idea that fighters would struggle to land a glove on him when it's clear that not only did guys land on him but also land on him often. Watch the footage.
     
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