a lot of the names mentioned are not underrated, just more forgotten or not as well known as they should be... i.e Steele & Lloyd Marshall, both rate very high, but they aren't always spoke of in the usual regurgitated more popularly known names in conversations. the Irish fighter Jimmy Warnock who was a top contender and he beat Lynch twice is the kind of fighter that interests me... British fighters Joe Bowker Bobby Dobbs (U.S) This content is protected Len Johnson Jack Casey Jock McAvoy Bert Gilroy Bummy Davis Ernie Roderick Jake Kilrain, the Scottish WW Ginger Sadd Peter Keenan fighters like that, I believe are far more interesting than done to death Champions or supposed champions, like a TF for a recent years example. another just came to mind Jeremy Williams, great boxer probably could have been a bit more. but in past times & bygone Prizefighting days like the first few, far more intriguing stories.
btw has/is anybody Writing a Book on Lloyd Marshall, whom is easily among the greatest fighters of alltime.
Hi Buddy. Excellent call on Hector Thompson, what a consummate box/fighter he was, one of my favs back then. Mike.
Joe Brown Ismael Laguna Santos Laciar Hiroyuki Ebihara Ben Villaflor Alberto Davila Chucho Castillo Sumbu Kalambay Ernesto Marcel Orzubek Nazarov
In beginning Fighter's Mick Dooley (had a whole career not documented) Frank Slavin (one of first big stars along w/jackson) Martin "buffalo"costello (great p4p) very short prime but one of the best unknown fighters. Mike Donovan Jr (outstanding fighter) taught by a master Kid Carter (great power poorly managed) Twin Sullivan (one of the best inside fighters) Jack Root/ Kid Mccoy (both hit the scene with a big splash) Harry Laing (lost in history) basically never lost a match.. and probably the most underrated of them all would be Larry Temple (you will gain next to nothing looking at his record of draws) But very few impressed the way he did. He was extra extra special. I also really appreciate any fighter who resurrected their career out of complete shambles. Like Big Sandy Ferguson or Mysterious Billy Smith both are some of the great resurrection stories in boxing.
Good choice, one that I wish I had picked. Williams was a good heavyweight, but what definitely let him down was his chin, which wasn't helped by his bad defensive habits. I believe if he had fought in the era when they raised the cruiserweight limit to 200 pounds, he 100% would've been a champion too. He was too powerful and explosive not to be. I remember he was scheduled to fight Hasim Rahman at one point, but Rahman had to cancel and he fought Maurice Harris instead. He was clearly out of his depth because he had been training for Rahman's style, but instead got outboxed and lost, which in my opinion put the final nail in the coffin for his chances of becoming someone in the heavyweight picture. His best win is over Doc Nicholson, who was Emanuel Steward's protege and highly regarded by the trainer, and he knocked him out in two rounds. This content is protected
Ooooo. 01 - Freddie Miller 02 - Lou Salica 03 - Elbows McFadden 04 - Frankie Burns 05 - Willie Joyce 06 - Black Bill 07 - Kid Williams 08 - Mike O'Dowd 09 - Billy Papke 10 - Vicente Saldivar Maybe something like that.
Pascal Perez Midget Wolgast Massao Oba Horacio Accavalio Manuel Ortiz Memphis Pal Moore Abe Attell Packey McFarland Tommy Gibbins Jimmy Bivins All either top 10 in one of the original 8 weight divisions or top 50 p4p, all time, imo.
You must mean the cuban Black Bill? I was a bit perplexed seeing his name on here..thinking of the original. https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/11629
Ernesto Marcel and Eduardo Lausse are 2 of my top picks but there are so many potential greats to choose from and a lot of excellent picks have been made already
well I can only comment on fighters I know a bit about or have been quite impressed by their performances or I'm interested in. Donald is well received from my memory of him getting much mention & support on these Boxing Sites. I only have a vague memory of seeing him fight once or twice, but no great memory with certainty, but he, again, memory serving is a highly regarded Noted & Top fighter, which I typically don't argue against, unless less your Chris Eubank. Anyway, you know I don't go for, nor care about that achievement based must have a world title to count B.S... Fighters are either good fighters or they are not and Donald I understand is just that, I'll have to check him out again on YT to see if I remember watching him. But again, the point stands... Fighters are either TOP Fighters or not, some get more opportunities than others, some deserved, some not... A good thread to highlight just that might be, Title Holders who perhaps shouldn't have even got the chance, but won a title anyway... that would surely prove the point for fighters who were even more deserving but never did, who then were even more capable of winning a title. you see my point, Very Good Top & Great fighters run into the hundreds,
Larry Donald is underrated, but he had big wins to back up his skill, like Witherspoon, Holyfield, and Valuev. The problem was that he wasn't the most entertaining fighter to watch, so he doesn't get the credit he deserves. This happens to many other fighters, like Oquendo and Akinwande, so Donald being underrated isn't anything crazy. Williams is a fun fighter to watch and isn't talked about at all.
I agree that Donald was underrated, skilled, durable but missing that top gear. Williams was fun to watch against Sam Peter.
This content is protected better question, how come Today's heavies aren't even able to exchange with such assuredness.