Top 10 underrated

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  1. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    a lot of the names mentioned are not underrated, just more forgotten or not as well known as they should be...

    i.e Steele & Lloyd Marshall, both rate very high, but they aren't always spoke of in the usual regurgitated more popularly known names in conversations.

    the Irish fighter Jimmy Warnock who was a top contender and he beat Lynch twice is the kind of fighter that interests me...

    British fighters

    Joe Bowker

    Bobby Dobbs (U.S)
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    Len Johnson
    Jack Casey
    Jock McAvoy
    Bert Gilroy
    Bummy Davis
    Ernie Roderick
    Jake Kilrain, the Scottish WW
    Ginger Sadd
    Peter Keenan

    fighters like that, I believe are far more interesting than done to death Champions or supposed champions, like a TF for a recent years example.

    another just came to mind Jeremy Williams, great boxer probably could have been a bit more.

    but in past times & bygone Prizefighting days like the first few, far more intriguing stories.
     
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  2. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    btw has/is anybody Writing a Book on Lloyd Marshall, whom is easily among the greatest fighters of alltime.
     
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  3. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hi Buddy.
    Excellent call on Hector Thompson, what a consummate box/fighter he was, one of my favs back then.
    Mike.
     
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  4. Flo_Raiden

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    Joe Brown
    Ismael Laguna
    Santos Laciar
    Hiroyuki Ebihara
    Ben Villaflor
    Alberto Davila
    Chucho Castillo
    Sumbu Kalambay
    Ernesto Marcel
    Orzubek Nazarov
     
  5. Historical boxing society

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    In beginning Fighter's

    Mick Dooley (had a whole career not documented)
    Frank Slavin (one of first big stars along w/jackson)
    Martin "buffalo"costello (great p4p) very short prime but one of the best unknown fighters.
    Mike Donovan Jr (outstanding fighter) taught by a master
    Kid Carter (great power poorly managed)
    Twin Sullivan (one of the best inside fighters)
    Jack Root/ Kid Mccoy (both hit the scene with a big splash)
    Harry Laing (lost in history) basically never lost a match..

    and probably the most underrated of them all would be
    Larry Temple (you will gain next to nothing looking at his record of draws)
    But very few impressed the way he did. He was extra extra special.

    I also really appreciate any fighter who resurrected their career out of complete shambles.
    Like Big Sandy Ferguson or Mysterious Billy Smith both are some of the great resurrection stories in boxing.
     
  6. PopPellegrino

    PopPellegrino Active Member Full Member

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    Good choice, one that I wish I had picked. Williams was a good heavyweight, but what definitely let him down was his chin, which wasn't helped by his bad defensive habits. I believe if he had fought in the era when they raised the cruiserweight limit to 200 pounds, he 100% would've been a champion too. He was too powerful and explosive not to be.

    I remember he was scheduled to fight Hasim Rahman at one point, but Rahman had to cancel and he fought Maurice Harris instead. He was clearly out of his depth because he had been training for Rahman's style, but instead got outboxed and lost, which in my opinion put the final nail in the coffin for his chances of becoming someone in the heavyweight picture.

    His best win is over Doc Nicholson, who was Emanuel Steward's protege and highly regarded by the trainer, and he knocked him out in two rounds.
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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Ooooo.

    01 - Freddie Miller
    02 - Lou Salica
    03 - Elbows McFadden
    04 - Frankie Burns
    05 - Willie Joyce
    06 - Black Bill
    07 - Kid Williams
    08 - Mike O'Dowd
    09 - Billy Papke
    10 - Vicente Saldivar

    Maybe something like that.
     
  8. Greg Price99

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    Pascal Perez
    Midget Wolgast
    Massao Oba
    Horacio Accavalio
    Manuel Ortiz
    Memphis Pal Moore
    Abe Attell
    Packey McFarland
    Tommy Gibbins
    Jimmy Bivins

    All either top 10 in one of the original 8 weight divisions or top 50 p4p, all time, imo.
     
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  9. Historical boxing society

    Historical boxing society Member Full Member

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    You must mean the cuban Black Bill?

    I was a bit perplexed seeing his name on here..thinking of the original.

    https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/11629
     
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  10. haNZAgod

    haNZAgod Member Full Member

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    Ernesto Marcel and Eduardo Lausse are 2 of my top picks but there are so many potential greats to choose from and a lot of excellent picks have been made already
     
  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    If you're going to put Half Man/Half Amazing in the category, where do you put Larry Donald?
     
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  12. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    well I can only comment on fighters I know a bit about or have been quite impressed by their performances or I'm interested in. Donald is well received from my memory of him getting much mention & support on these Boxing Sites.

    I only have a vague memory of seeing him fight once or twice, but no great memory with certainty, but he, again, memory serving is a highly regarded Noted & Top fighter, which I typically don't argue against, unless less your Chris Eubank.

    Anyway, you know I don't go for, nor care about that achievement based must have a world title to count B.S...

    Fighters are either good fighters or they are not and Donald I understand is just that, I'll have to check him out again on YT to see if I remember watching him. But again, the point stands...

    Fighters are either TOP Fighters or not, some get more opportunities than others, some deserved, some not...

    A good thread to highlight just that might be, Title Holders who perhaps shouldn't have even got the chance, but won a title anyway... that would surely prove the point for fighters who were even more deserving but never did, who then were even more capable of winning a title.

    you see my point, Very Good Top & Great fighters run into the hundreds,
     
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  13. PopPellegrino

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    Larry Donald is underrated, but he had big wins to back up his skill, like Witherspoon, Holyfield, and Valuev. The problem was that he wasn't the most entertaining fighter to watch, so he doesn't get the credit he deserves. This happens to many other fighters, like Oquendo and Akinwande, so Donald being underrated isn't anything crazy. Williams is a fun fighter to watch and isn't talked about at all.
     
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  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I agree that Donald was underrated, skilled, durable but missing that top gear.

    Williams was fun to watch against Sam Peter.
     
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  15. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    better question, how come Today's heavies aren't even able to exchange with such assuredness.
     
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