Joe Calzaghe vs Prime Roy Jones jr, James Toney, Andre Ward

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MarkusFlorez99, Sep 14, 2025.


Who wins ?

This poll will close on Jun 10, 2028 at 5:39 PM.
  1. Calzaghe clears

    26.6%
  2. Loses to Roy

    70.9%
  3. Loses to Toney

    39.2%
  4. Loses to Ward

    35.4%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I definitely favor him over Toney, but Prime Roy and Ward are interesting
     
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  2. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    With fair judging and refereeing Joe beats them all.
     
  3. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol: Lol

    If there is STRICT PED testing for this one (All of those hopefuls to defeat Joe you listed there do have their history ;) and a level playing field all across the board… Super Joe outworks them and gets the W.
     
  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So you admit he doesn't beat Roy at his best
     
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  5. Dj-Rossi

    Dj-Rossi New Member banned Full Member

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    Joe Calzaghe was basically The American Assassin. Whooping Americans non-stop.

    All his long career they looked for a Great Hope to beat him. He was just too damn fast, slick and skilled baby!

    He retired 17 years ago, and they are STILL mythically searching!
     
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  6. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Loses to Roy and Toney. I favour him over Ward.
     
  7. SupaKat

    SupaKat New Member banned Full Member

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    3 UD wins for Super Joe
     
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  8. PusherII

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  9. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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  10. Reallymakesmethink

    Reallymakesmethink Member Full Member

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    I don't really see him beating any of them really
     
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  11. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You think calzaghe beats prime Roy Jones ? lol. This is a guy who went life and death with Robin Read. Prime Roy destroys Joe and stops him. Target practice. His feet and hands were too fast. I would expect Joe to just chase him around getting picked apart.
     
  12. Mickc

    Mickc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime Roy beats him like a Ginger stepson Ward by Unanimous decision as for Toney he just shuts him down and old Hopkins should have got the win but his racist comment put paid to that ! Take old Jones and Hopkins off his record and who did Joe beat exactly ! Just look at Jones Wards Toneys Hopkins records and look at the level of fighters they faced !
     
  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Prime Roy isn't beating VADA and neither is Toney and let's not forget that Ward was extremely reluctant to do random drug testing for a long time to the extent he would get visibly annoyed when pressed about it, enlisted the services of PED guru Victor Conte, mysteriously developed back and chest acne at LHW and that he's one of the dirtiest fighters of all time and that fouling and cheating religiously was the most integral part of his game plan.

    He was also managed by notorious extremely shady gangster James Prince and that would deeply concern me if I was fighting one of his fighters in the US so lots of red flags there

    But we know for a fact that Roy and Toney were PED cheats and were artificially enhanced but they receive and have always received an obligatory free pass for it from so many for as long as I've been on here and had Joe, who I would trust as much as anyone not to have been a PED cheat, been caught juicing he would be crucified on a molten cross for it and his entire legacy torn to shreds as would Usyk If he did too and there is zero argument against that so it begs the question why is that? Hmm..
     
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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Joe Calzaghe

    "I would hate to fight a cheat and I don't believe in cheating in any sport. I'm not calling him a cheat and I don't know what was taken or what happened," Calzaghe told The People. "I have to remember to take my vitamin C every morning and I believe in a fair fight."

    He says that even if his opponent, Jones or otherwise, took an illegal steroid, he would still beat them.

    "In athletics, a cheat gets disqualified, but in boxing if you get your ass kicked and then he's found to be a cheat, it doesn't matter because you can't reverse the decision and you've still had your ass kicked.

    ''In athletics drug cheats get banned automatically for two years, and if steroids can make athletes run faster, they can surely help a boxer to hit harder and to hit for longer and this will enable them to inflict more punishment, which I think is repulsive. During our pre-fight medicals we get tested for drugs and it's never crossed my mind to take anything performance-enhancing. I don't have a big pot of pills that I dip into all hours of the day. In fact, I have a job just to remind myself to take vitamins.

    ''I would be angry if someone I fought took something that gave him an unfair advantage because this is a dangerous sport, it's not like running. In athletics it now seems almost part of the culture, just like cycling, and the who idea is to stay one step ahead of testing. I sat alongside Justin Gatlin, at the time the reigning Olympic 100m champion, on the BBC's Question of Sport about a year ago and spoke to him afterwards. We talked about the Jeff Lacy fight because he's from Florida as well and he seemed like a really nice guy and I was genuinely shocked and disappointed when he failed a drugs test last summer. Whenever I watch athletics or cycling now I have my suspicions. Some get caught and some don't but I like to think that fighters are clean. Boxing's a warrior sport and, to me, there have always been values that go along with that.

    ''It's cheating there's no other word for it.''
     
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  15. PopPellegrino

    PopPellegrino Active Member Full Member

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    You can say that with strict testing, Calzaghe hypothetically beats all three, pretending Ward was caught and assuming Calzaghe isn't on PEDs either. Fighters like Tommy Morrison openly admitted to using steroids during his professional career and were never caught by a drug test. We know highly activity, high volume punchers with tons of stamina and speed, like Calzaghe, are especially suspicious when it comes to PED usage.

    But if you're talking about the matchups based strictly on what we've actually seen, rather than fan fiction to make up for Calzaghe's lackluster resume for an ATG, I'd give him about a 60% chance against Andre Ward, maybe a 25% chance against Toney, and practically a 0% chance against Roy Jones.