Oscar De La Hoya was overrated

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  1. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Vargas was not an elite fighter Full Member

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    I agree but Tim would still be the hardest puncher DLH would have faced aside from BHop, I think any light middle with a decent punch would have troubled DLH.
     
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  2. KirkK

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    This still has to be the most insane post on here. Oscar fought everyone in an extremely tough era. Probably should be taken down so dummies like me don’t take the click bait. Lame. Who is great if not someone who fought literally everyone. So few do.
     
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  3. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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    The garbage inconsistent boxing judges muddled the view of De La Hoya's big fight career, giving plenty of room for passionate debates amongst deranged haters & creepy fanboys alike. Yet how could anyone seriously discuss anything De La Hoya after the kitchen utensils leaks??
     
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  4. Dynamicpuncher

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    Tito ? Quartey ? Mosley ? Are not harder punches than Tim Tszyu ?

    Tszyu has a 64 percent stoppage ratio and who exactly has he stopped of relevance ?

    Mosley, Tito, Quartey, all had over an 80 percent stoppage ratio.

    Hopkins is also not a big puncher he beat ODLH because ODLH didn't belong at Middleweight.

    ODLH has faced plenty of bigger punchers and more dangerous fighters than Tszyu.
     
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  5. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Same guy who shared the ring with some of the best fighters in different eras and also beat the likes of Pernell Whitaker, Julio Cesar Chavez, Hector Camacho, Arturo Gatti, Fernando Vargas, Ike Quartey, Genaro Hernandez, and arguably Felix Trinidad and Shane Mosley as well.

    Yeah, very "overrated" indeed.
     
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  6. TNSNO1878

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    There are some wild takes in this thread, but I think one that needs putting to bed unequivocally is the idea that Tim Tsyzu is anywhere near the same level as De La Hoya, it's offensive to even put them in the same conversation. Tim got horrifically smashed all over the place in one of the most sickening and one-sided beatings seen so far this decade by a man who went on to get outboxed by Josh Kelly in his very next fight.

    He's had 3 fights at the actual elite level of 154, and he is 0-3, with 2 systematic and one-sided stoppage losses. He has knocked out or beaten nobody anywhere remotely close to world level; the notion that he can compete with De La Hoya is outrageous. Oscar was P4P number one for 2 and a half years, won an Olympic gold medal, and was lineal champion in 3 different divisions.
     
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  7. Mark Anthony

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    Tim is bigger than those fighters and has knocked out bigger guys.
     
  8. Mark Anthony

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    Camacho wasn't a top fighter during the 90's, he was better at 135, he was just a gate keeper during the 90's.
     
  9. NoChin

    NoChin Sir Jackson England Future World Champion Full Member

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    Tszyu turned out to be garbage. He was a different fighter post Fundora 1. The cut changed everything. He would have destroyed Fundora. He lost gallantly with one eye for 10 rounds via a split decision. He's never been the same fighter since. Murtzaliev bruised amd battered him like a fried pancake drenched in maple syrup. That fight was the nail in the coffin. Fundora 2 he got crucified. Another nail in the coffin. Dropped in round 1, quit on his stool. He said he didn't want to fight anymore. Then recently he came out and said he couldn't talk he was that bad. That he didn't quit. So he got mauled that bad he was unresponsive then? That's even worse. He's beaten Joey Spencer between that then Anthony Velazquez, Dennis Nurdja and a retired over the hill Erol Spence. Tszyu is done. I don't care if he beats an aging Lara and that's if the first decent guy Tszyu faces he loses. The reality is Tszyu would have copped De La Hoya's left hook and he'd get plastered allover the canvas again as he did vs Bakhram.

    Tszyu isn't even fit to lace up De La Hoya's gloves.
     
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  10. Cage

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    I think people tend to forget his history

    His career started in 1992. He was a dominate undefeated beast all the way up to his first defeat in Tito in 1999. It took 8 years for someone to finally beat him and really, he made a tactical error, coasted the last round, and it ended up costing him the fight. If he would have just let his hands go for 30 seconds of the last round i doubt Tito would have been given the win.

    He did lose to Mayweather, but Oscar was correct that there would have been no fight to speak of if he didnt engage. Floyd won just by pot shotting and riding his bike. At least Oscar showed up to fight

    Against B-Hop he was completely out sized and that fight should have never been made.

    And its fault, but he came in weight drained af and looked like a skeleton against Pac.

    He KO'ed an aging Chavez and took his place on the mantle that night and followed it up with great wins against Ruelas, Whitaker, Quartey, Molina Jr, Leija, and Gonzalez. A lof of those guys were champions, ex champions, or undefeated and just like Floyd he completely outclassed, outboxed, or walked right through them.

    Im not saying hes the greatest, but I dont think he gets fairly judged and hes not nearly as over rated as a lot of people claim he is. Once he started wearing fishnets and shoving mounds of coke up his nostrils... he wasnt the same fighter
     
  11. Joe.Boxer

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    He just makes me want to look away. The whole kitchen utensils fetish appears to be rooted in years of beatings by his mother (with weapons) in the corners of her kitchen. I'd much rather celebrities kept stuff like this to themselves as it's all creepy as hell.
     
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  12. NoChin

    NoChin Sir Jackson England Future World Champion Full Member

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    Kitchen Utensils as well? Ffs. De La Hoya is twisted to say the least.
     
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  13. Dynamicpuncher

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    Tszyu has a 20 percent lower KO ratio than the fighters I mentioned.

    So the statistics do not match up with your argument.

    Also what has bigger got to do with what you said ?

    You stated Tszyu would be the biggest puncher ODLH has ever fought which is wrong.

    Mosley is a bigger puncher P4P, so is Quartey, and so is Tito.

    Tito knocked out a Middleweight champion which is 1 weightclass above Tszyu.

    Which relevant bigger fighters has Tszyu knocked out ?
     
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  15. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Vargas was not an elite fighter Full Member

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    I didn't mean p4p, Tszyu simply has proven light middle power and would have been too strong for DLH.