At What Point Did Heavyweight Size Become A Genuinely Decisive Advantage?

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  1. META5

    META5 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, so is 6'3.

    Okay - 6 ft - 6'3".
     
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  2. Andre2000

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    Preaching to the choir or, at least just me, a ridiculously well endowed choir boy.

    Reduction surgery doesn’t work. Don’t go there.

    Had it done and it simply grew back to its original size and then some so I might say it more than restored itself with a vengeance.
     
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  3. Seamus

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    The 2000's was talent rich but Toney was barely holding his own against handpicked opponents and he was certainly gear-rich.
     
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  4. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    You know what I hate? When people over the phone are like "I CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU. YOUR VOICE IS TOO LOW!"
     
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  5. Andre2000

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    Perhaps we should start a “Me Too”’ movement/club. It only takes the courage of a few to get these things snowballing. As to difficulties performing certain vocational
    duties due to our encumbrances, perhaps the new age “puppetry” industry that I’ve read about is right up our alleys, so to speak.:confused:
     
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  6. Cornucopia

    Cornucopia New Member Full Member

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    Which of those mid-century HWs was even a fraction over 6'?
    6.05" is likely Liston's correct height-like IRL, when you see multiple heights, trust the lesser one is very likely correct-especially if it is a fraction.
    Liston was normally not more than 210-215 lbs.
    One thing that always surprised me is that he did not weigh MORE.
    I doubt it was a case like Dick Saddler allegedly (& if so idiotically) having Foreman come into the ring dry/dehydrated.
    Sonny looked like he had a good deal of muscle, including on his lower body, + was not low body fat.
    He always looked like not less than @230 lbs. to me, even at barely over 6'.
     
  7. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of the 6 x HWs I cited, Johansson was listed as 6ft 0.5ins.
     
  8. Steve Fero

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    Let’s remember the cruiserweight division limit is more then your great guys weighed most of their careers. That being Louis Dempsey and Marciano. Then on top of that Usyk also gains weight more scientifically then they could up to super heavyweight numbers. He puts on over 20 pounds as muscle and comes in top shape. So there’s your ‘little man’ 6 2 over 220 lbs.
     
  9. Steve Fero

    Steve Fero Active Member Full Member

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    Sonny had skinny legs. His upper body was very big but he wasn’t as heavy as he appears because of the skinny legs.
     
  10. Steve Fero

    Steve Fero Active Member Full Member

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    Many measure height with shoes and socks on. So that adds 3/4 inch. Then they round up which means their 1 to 1 1/2 inch shorter then they are reporting. Very common especially in basketball.
     
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  11. OddR

    OddR Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can see a legit 6'5 like Wlad how tall it actually is.
     
  12. Boxing GOAT

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    Toney had better wins than Wilder at HW and went the distance with better competition while being a relatively small HW that started out at MW.
     
  13. mcvey

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    Apart from 41 years old Holyfield , who does Toney have wins against who are better than;
    Arrelloa
    Stiverne
    Ortiz
    Chisora
    Helenius
    ?????
     
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  14. Cornucopia

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    I know! Except shoes add at least 1", often 1 & 1 1/2" , rarely just 3/4".
    Certainly b-Ball type shoes.
     
  15. Cornucopia

    Cornucopia New Member Full Member

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    No, both the images I see & search results describe his things in ways like massive, tree trunk, thick, muscular, & heavily muscled.
    This may be overstated compared to the biggest SWHs today, or say David Tua, but by normal standards this is correct.
    And no part of his lower body looked thin compared to his upper body.
    So again especially when his body fat level was not low, he looks way over 210-215 lbs.

    Some search results reinforcing this.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=did...AIB&sourceid=chrome&source=chrome.ob&ie=UTF-8
     
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