Can Naoya Inoue surpass Bud?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JunlongXiFan, Aug 19, 2026 at 1:50 PM.


Can Inoue?

  1. He already has

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    56.1%
  2. Yes

    17 vote(s)
    41.5%
  3. No

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%
  1. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo lost twice to GGG and I had him losing to Lara. I think he beat Trout.
     
  2. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    GGG2 was a draw for me. I couldnt see a GGG win nor a Canelo win. Lara earned a draw, at best. GGG1 was definitely a loss for Canelo.

    I will say this though. People had GGG dominating Canelo in fight 1. I had it 7-5 or 6-5-1. My scorecard was different than most. GGG still winning but round-by-round it was close. GGG just closed stronger.
     
  3. LoveThis

    LoveThis Sweet Science Full Member

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    And this is the popularity perspective rather than the actual achievement perspective.

    To me shot canelo qnd car crash spence are worth less than still very game donaire and prime nakatani.

    Really, canelo and spence were big names at the time, but I was really waiting for canelo to finally get his loss. He looked awful in a number of fights before that and stopped taking challenges.

    I think it is just the lack of interest for the lower weight classes. If every weight class had the same amount of interest going with it, noone would doubt inoue like they do
     
  4. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis "The David Haye of Loma's Gay" -Edgar Allan Poe Full Member

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    Eh, they're practically even in my mind. It's hard to really separate hairs here. Canelo and Spence just have more prestige is all.

    But I agree in regards to Canelo. He looked awful vs Scull. That was not the performance of a guy that is a top 10 P4Per anymore. He looked so bad I felt even I could beat him. Though I will say that he definitely showed up in way better form vs Crawford than he did for Scull. We'll really have to wait for the Mbilli fight to see where he's at.

    I also don't really rate Nakatani as highly as most people. Sure he's a 3 division champion, but I see it in the same way a guy as mid as Broner was a 4 division champion and Zab Judah was undisputed Welterweight champion despite losing to every top guy he faced. Just really fortunate circumstances, mostly. Though Nakatani probably is better than either Broner or Judah based on the eye test.

    But 2 of his 3 divisional titles were won because of vacancy politics and he never unified in either, beating mostly unknowns while at it. And his Bantamweight reign is just him picking up what Inoue left behind while missing many of the top guys there like Tsutsumi, Takuma and Higa. I see his resume as comparable to somebody like say, Jaron Ennis. It's not even a case of the lower weights being weak, coz 118 is stacked, but he just hasn't fought them. Nishida is the only real standout.

    I'm not sure I can put Junto over Spence given that Spence basically did all the work at 147 by beating all the champions, while Bud just sat on his ass after Horn, beating Spence victims after Spence beat them, and the victims of Spence's victims. But then you also have the crash. It's a very weird grey territory.