2026 TOP 10 ALL-TIME HEAVYWEIGHTS SURVEY

Not the issue. Siki had no real experience at heavyweight and his style made to order for Dempsey. Post championship he fell apart. He was not a viable challenger for the heavyweight championship.

In contrast Carpentier was world famous, multiple title holder and he received accolades for his effort vs Jeanette.

 

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Larry Holmes
4. Rocky Marciano
5. George Foreman
6. Jack Johnson
7. Joe Frazier
8. Evander Holyfield
9. Mike Tyson
10. Lennox Lewis

 

So now the story changes. First, he was never a viable challenger. So I show you there were offers on the table, and now it becomes no experience...style made for Dempsey.

Whatever. I taught you something today. Learn it or don't learn it. It was a viable fight, and there were offers on the table.

Not really worth a separate post.

 

Nope ,thats a quote from the chief bull shitter Bert Sugar.

 

Source?

 

Siki was never a viable challenger for Dempsey's title.
"There were offers on the table?"
Okay post them.
From which promoter?
For how much?
When,the date of the offers?
In which country?
At which arena?

 

So, Carpentier being "world famous" (how much did Rickard amplify his fame?) and having a close fight against an aged Jeanette SEVEN YEARS earlier qualified for a title shot at the heavyweight crown. Great.

 

The source is Sugar himself .The fairy tale spinner.
So Much to Talk About: Bert Sugar (July 2007)-Part 4 of 6

Now lets have your sources for these offers

 

Wait a minute, this doesn't prove he wasn't right or was the ultimate source.

POST SCRIPT:

I read Jack Dempsey's autobiography probably 40 years ago...you do know he said he was afraid of Langford?

 

I definitely agree with the Top 4. And have no strong dispute with 5 - 10.

 

Perspective.. Holyfield always beats Tyson

 

Not necessarily without PEDS.

 

Ali
Louis
Holmes
Wlad
Marciano
Lewis
Holyfield
Tyson
Dempsey
Foreman

I consider Dempsey the first modern champion, I now rate fighters in the division that preceded him into an old timer class among their peers.

 

There you go again. All that PED talk sounds like a disgruntled Tyson fan. You don't even know how that looks.. like an immature thing. Can't even talk about what happened in ring in '96. I expect you'll be bringing up headbutts next. C'mon.. Tyson fans.. don't be pussies. Really, now.. doesn't fit. He was supposed to be the baddest man on the planet.

And why don't you have Tyson in your top-10 heavyweight rankings, something like Ikrasevic alluded to?