Filip Hrgovic is a more talented fighter than Moses Itauma

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  1. MaccaveliMacc

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    The fact that you're bringing your political delusions to a boxing talk says a lot about how disturbed you really are. Keep exposing yourself tho.
     
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    Yeah, I bet you hear a lot of things in your head. Can see it in your posts, lol.
     
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    Itauma's collapse was more rapid than Wlad's, Morrison's or Haye's. They all had a round of being beaten up before they got stopped in the one after, Itauma was gone in the first round he lost.[/QUOTE]
    Moses itauma threw 416 Punches in just 9 Rounds against Filip Hrgovic and most were Power Shots No heavyweight is throwing does many Punches. Itauma threw 65 Punches in Round 8 trying to stop Filip hrgovic. David Price wasn't even throwing the same volume as Itauma and he sure can't throw 65 Punches a round.. ituama is not Jared Anderson....Jared Anderson got beat from pillar to post against Martin Bakole.. yes Filip hrgovic isn't Ross Purity but my Point is that Ross Purity is Ultimate Bum... Frank martin is Way better than Ross Purity and itauma Knocked him out in 5 rounds.... Wlademir Klitschko also got destroyed by corrie sanders and Brewster.... Moses Ituama is q generational talent his only problem is learning how to pace himself...
     
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    You keep trying to compare Itauma with price LMAO... David Price was very Stiff, had a weak Chin, didn't have a good defense, also has been Knocked out in the Amateurs with head gear on... Moses Ituama has never been dropped in the Amateurs he's also not Stiff and he's got a great Defense.. Moses Ituama only flaw is his inability to pace himself that's it... Moses Ituama at age 15 was sparring AJ, Dubois, Fury .
     
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    Moses itauma threw 416 Punches in just 9 Rounds against Filip Hrgovic and most were Power Shots No heavyweight is throwing does many Punches. Itauma threw 65 Punches in Round 8 trying to stop Filip hrgovic. David Price wasn't even throwing the same volume as Itauma and he sure can't throw 65 Punches a round.. ituama is not Jared Anderson....Jared Anderson got beat from pillar to post against Martin Bakole.. yes Filip hrgovic isn't Ross Purity but my Point is that Ross Purity is Ultimate Bum... Frank martin is Way better than Ross Purity and itauma Knocked him out in 5 rounds.... Wlademir Klitschko also got destroyed by corrie sanders and Brewster.... Moses Ituama is q generational talent his only problem is learning how to pace himself...[/QUOTE]
    Itauma is more talented than Anderson but mentally I see similarities. 416 punches over 9 rounds is not a furious pace. David Haye started much faster against Carl Thompson. If you lack heart, chin, brain, lungs then your speed and power will only carry you so far.

    I don't think Jermaine Franklin is better than Ross Puritty, let alone "way better". Franklin was a spoiler, Puritty came to win, was a decent puncher and had a couple of good results.

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/unique-journeyman-ross-puritty.715169/
     
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    Itauma has a weak chin and poor defence. He took Hrgovic's shots poorly to head and body and his defense is based on his reflexes and his offense, in large part. He had no survival skills vs Hrgo because he has always been the hammer and not the nail. I also saw no backfoot game from him. Price boxed at the Olympics as an amateur, Itauma boxed kids in the world junior championships. The British hype machine says it was just pacing but the hype is lying for a second time. Itauma only sparred Okolie at 15 to my knowledge. Yes he has talent but he has major flaws, like AJ, Haye.
     
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    That's because of how great and complete a fighter he is. The WSB Usyk would've handled the giants he fought in the pros at HW even easier or with less difficulty than he did as his speed, reflexes, reaction times and agility were so much faster and sharper back then during his prime and athletic prime.

    Maybe it won't crack, maybe it will we simply don't know but we do know that if he was 21 with a lot less miles on his clock as opposed to 34 it wouldn't crack for a very long time which is my point.
     
  10. Redbeard7

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    What was Fury's speed, agility and reaction time like in 2024 compared to 2015, prior to the 30 stone junk food, alcohol and coke binge? If Usyk was so much better at 25 he should have turned pro and toyed with Wlad, and shouldn't have spent 3 years fighting journeymen after turning pro.

    What are the top wins by HW's 21 and younger? Because aside from maybe Mike Tyson, I wouldn't pick any of them to beat Hrgovic.
     
  11. BoxingGod12345

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    Itauma is more talented than Anderson but mentally I see similarities. 416 punches over 9 rounds is not a furious pace. David Haye started much faster against Carl Thompson. If you lack heart, chin, brain, lungs then your speed and power will only carry you so far.

    I don't think Jermaine Franklin is better than Ross Puritty, let alone "way better". Franklin was a spoiler, Puritty came to win, was a decent puncher and had a couple of good results.

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/unique-journeyman-ross-puritty.715169/[/QUOTE]
    Ross Purity had 13 losses when he beat Wlademir Klitschko and most of those losses were to bums .. Ross Purity got Knocked Out in 1 Round by a complete Bum in his 2nd career fight.... Franklin was 24-2 when he fought Moses and those 2 losses were to dillian Whyte a fight many believe he won also against AJ a fight he wasn't dropped or hurt and AJ is a significantly bigger puncher than filip hrgovic.. you don't see Franklin getting Knocked out by bums in 1 Round LMAO.... Ross Purity was getting Knocked out by bums that's the guy Wlademir Klitschko lost to
     
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    We are talking about a 25-26 y/o version of Usyk vs the versions of the fighters he did actually fight when he was 34-38 but any version of him beats any version of Belly and that includes the wild boar juiced Belly and the one who was getting dropped and badly hurt by featherfists and featherfist E levels.

    Usyk didn't turn pro until he was almost 27 but he could've turned pro at HW if he wanted to but he chose to become undisputed at CW first. But that's neither her nor there because I'm simply making the point that I'd take a 25-26 y/o athletic prime version of Usyk at HW over the near 35 y/o-38/39 y/o version because he was that much faster, more agile, and with faster reflexes and reaction times and his speed advantage would've been even greater than it was, a speed advantage that has been diminishing for years up at HW in his mid to late 30s

    My point. Good chance Moses will not be as good at 34 as he is now and his speed, reflexes, and reaction times will be diminished at 34. That doesn't mean HWs don't generally mature later. He, like Usyk, is a speed based reactive fighter.
     
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    Moses looked far better in that fight than Anderson did vs Bakole.
     
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    I think it is silly to make these assertions and compare a hypothetical "prime" Usyk (who'd never done a 6 rounder, let alone 12, and was years away from doing so) to diminished versions of his best opponents, or to wax lyrical about Usyk being diminished when his opponents easily may be more so. If Usyk had come back from half of what Fury did you'd say the post comeback version was basically shot and any of his poor performances would be entirely excused on that basis. Fury's poor performances against lesser opponents also did him no harm as this led to underestimation, by the time Usyk fought him he was a known quantity.

    Personally, I'd take the HW Usyk who schooled AJ, or the CW Usyk who schooled Gassiev, over the 3-5 round amateur/semi-pro Usyk who got a gift over Beterbiev, and was 5-6 years away from world title contention.

    Itauma will fade out faster than Usyk because he lacks a boxing brain, lacks heart, lacks chin, lacks stamina and lacks discipline. Usyk has core attributes as well as elite skill which gives him far more longevity than a Haye/AJ/Itauma type. There are very few HW's these days who are better at 21 than 34, and the list of big HW wins at 21 or younger is short, so it is fair to say Hrgo had an advantage, even though I think he wins at 21 too.
     
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    Ross Purity had 13 losses when he beat Wlademir Klitschko and most of those losses were to bums .. Ross Purity got Knocked Out in 1 Round by a complete Bum in his 2nd career fight.... Franklin was 24-2 when he fought Moses and those 2 losses were to dillian Whyte a fight many believe he won also against AJ a fight he wasn't dropped or hurt and AJ is a significantly bigger puncher than filip hrgovic.. you don't see Franklin getting Knocked out by bums in 1 Round LMAO.... Ross Purity was getting Knocked out by bums that's the guy Wlademir Klitschko lost to[/QUOTE]
    Ross Puritty had no amateur career and was learning on the job. But after the Kirk Johnson fight he was never dropped or stopped over 13 years to his retirement at age 40, and he fought a litany of names. Franklin has fought 5 names, going 2-3, and the Forrest "win" is regarded as a gift, with many arguing the same of the Dychko decision.

    Puritty got results against future ATG Wlad and contender/WBO champ Morrison, who are better than a faded 3 KO loss Whyte and fringe contender Dychko. In his prime, Puritty had a record of 19-5-1, with all losses to name HW's, usually on very short notice. He was more than a survival first boxer-spoiler like Franklin.

    I am not saying Puritty was anything more than a tough, high level journeyman but Franklin has absolutely not proven more dangerous as a pro.