Was Tommy Morrison a more talented fighter than Ray Mercer?

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  1. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Heavily hyped favourite, 22 year old, never been past 6 rounds Morrison had faster hands and feet, a wider range of punches, better combinations and more explosive power than 30 year old Mercer. Morrison was 3-1 up going into the 5th round; in a 4 rounder, Morrison may well have won.

    Was Morrison more talented than Mercer? If not, why not?

    Did Morrison just lose on pacing, maturity and experience?
     
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  2. BCS8

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    Yes he was. Tommy had the talent.

    Morrison had almost everything that you want a heavyweight fighter to have except a gas tank and an iron chin.

    Mercer was more of a plodder but he was exactly the wrong type for Tommy, able to soak up all the thunderous combinations and drain that scooter sized gas tank. Then he had the power to blow Tommy's so-so chin to bits.
     
  3. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    If they're both fit, Mercer beats Tommy 90-something out of a 100 and stands better chances against most guys on top of that. He's a superior heavyweight. But Tommy was more overall talented, for whatever it's worth. Paulie Malignaggi has more boxing talent, in terms of sophistication of his skills than so many of his better peers at 140 and 147, for instance, even when you take under account these raw physical traits, that I don't like to apply to the word 'skill,' in the same way, but having just one big weakness in that department can make that conversation purely academic. With Paulie and his power or Tommy and his chin, it doesn't really matter that much at the level they competed. It's unforgiving. You gottta both lay the hurt down and take it more importantly than display a wider variety of talent.
     
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  4. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold The Hype Job Spotter. Full Member

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    Itauma V Hrgovic is a similar situation.
     
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  5. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Chin and stamina are 2 of the most important qualities a fighter can possess...but they wouldn't fall under "talent"

    So ya, Mercer was the better fighter, Tommy had more talent.
     
  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Meth head.

    Hard to say how far he would have went without drugs, alcohol, tobacco and HIV.Had he not been on meth, he might have been much more rugged.
     
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  7. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Many people apparently believe this but it makes little sense to me. A fighter with poor durability and stamina is seriously lacking in ability, and these attributes have a massive natural component. By this standard David Price was a world level "talent", in reality he has less fighting talent than Christian Hammer.
     
  8. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Maybe more talented but Mercer had a great pedigree as an Olympic Gold medalist and would go to give Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield difficult fights

    What's that old adage about hard work beating talent when talent doesn't work hard. Tommy liked to party and it caught up with him
     
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  9. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mercer and Morrison could train equally hard and I'm still taking Mercer in a heartbeat. No amount of discipline could fix the chin and engine problems, and Tommy was pretty dumb too.
     
  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Tommy wins Gold never. Mercer had more talent. Tommy had flashiness and marketability.
     
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  11. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    My hard work comment wasn't necessarily about their fight but Morrison's issues in general

    Did he achieve all that he could have?
     
  12. Redbeard7

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    Hard to square with Tommy being a more talented fighter.
     
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  13. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Mercer had a Chin. Morrison didn’t.
     
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  14. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Morrison was a lot better than he gets credit for and would have had a lot better career/life if he had the discipline to turn down women… do you guys know that he was married to 2 different women in 2 different states, without them knowing at one point?!

    If he had put as much effort in his training as he did chasing girls he could have won all of his loses. (maybe not Lewis)
     
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  15. uppakut

    uppakut Active Member Full Member

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    "Drain that scooter sized engine". That made me chuckle
     
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