Who was closer to their prime?

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  1. quintonjacksonfan

    quintonjacksonfan Active Member Full Member

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    Louis when schmeling beat him

    or schmeling when Louis beat him
     
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    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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  3. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Agree ...its Louis. If im not mistaken Max was considered past it going into the first Louis fight
     
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  6. Andre2000

    Andre2000 Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, Louis but fair to say that Joe’s victory over Max was far more emphatic than Max’s win over Joe.
     
  7. DavidA

    DavidA New Member Full Member

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    Joe Louis was closer to his physical prime but not his technical prime. That loss helped Joe shore up the leaks in his defense.
     
  8. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hi Buddy.
    A true and valid point, also it was probably the most succinct and ruthless display of power punching ever seen amongst the HWs, and maybe even all weights, it's hard to imagine any of Louis peers withstanding that onslaught, even my No1 Ali.
    stay safe Andre, chat soon .
    Mike.
     
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  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    He punched him in the back. Should have been a DQ.
     
  11. Andre2000

    Andre2000 Active Member Full Member

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    Haha. Max turned his back on Joe while the Bomber was beating the bejesus out of him. Not Joe’s fault. No DQ applicable.
     
  12. JackSilver

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    You sure he didn’t just catch schmeling early an the german’s senses an legs just never recovered enough to offer any real resistance? Seen many fighters stopped in the first round like that. Maybe giving the other boxer a sustained beating over many rounds proving your superiority is more impressive?
     
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  13. Andre2000

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    You’re not wrong Mike. It rates as among, if not the, highest concentration of violent and efficient output ever seen.

    Though brief, Joe also displayed a snippet of how he was going to deal with Max’s right/counter right over a potential longer haul.

    When Joe jabbed, he quickly re-holstered his left into a high guard position - but in tandem with same, Joe also quickly took a step back after jabbing for double insurance against Max’s right hand finding a home.
     
  14. Andre2000

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    Fair point.

    Some victories over many rounds can be possibly reasoned as being more comprehensive than victories over a much shorter route - though the latter mode of victory often carries the greater “wow” factor and sometimes can also give off a false vibe that the victor is somehow invincible.

    However, for as long as it did last (2 mins or so?) I don’t know that any fighter could’ve posted a more comprehensive victory in the time allowed than Louis did. He wrecked Max in every way possible.
     
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