If 14 year old Tony Ayala had sparred with Duran instead of Cuevas....

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  1. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At that time (Summer 77), young Tony was a WW, the only one in San Antonio at the time that was available to spar with champ Jose. Needless to say, Pipino was lucky this this was only a sparring match, or he wouldn't have been champion any longer. Dethroned by a 14 -year old, although not just any average one. I believe it was the third round, too.

    If this 14-year old WW Tony Ayala had sparred with the Duran of Montreal......what a bloodbath. Funny as it seems, I favor Tony........
     
  2. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It would be something, that's for sure.And it might continue outside of the ring.
     
  3. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Before Ayala got thrown in jail in 1983, there was talk of matching him with Duran, who was still struggling to get his career back on track after the "no mas" incident.Instead, Tony got 17 years for sodomizing a neighbor at knifepoint, and Roberto annihilated Davey Moore to cement his legend.
    History could have been a lot different if the Ayala -Duran fight happened.But of course, "if" is the largest two letter word in the dictionary.
     
  4. Manassa

    Manassa - banned

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    I'm lost for words :patsch
     
  5. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I'm not saying a thing hahaha
     
  6. bumdujour

    bumdujour Well-Known Member Full Member

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    it is funny that there are people out there who still buy into sparring hype.

    here is a hint: if it dont happen in a real fight, its simply not relevant.
     
  7. AREA 53

    AREA 53 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I remember watching an old out of shape Duran Sparring with the Young undefeated, quick hard hitting Nigel Benn, Nigels Mentality at this time was to Rip opponents Apart in the first couple of Rounds, Nigel did not go Gently with the obviously out of shape Duran, Duran could not match Nigel for Speed or chrispness, do he concentrated on defense, making Benn Miss and out positioning him, it hinted at what Roberto could do when in shape,

    I think the same would have happened against the Baby Bull, Egotist Alaya would have been looking to make a quick name for himself by Flooring Duran, or getting him to quite ther session, Roberto i think would of played Matador, and frustrated Alaya, if Alaya had overstepped the Mark, Roberto would probably have corrected hin with a body shot two to let him know that Roberto was in the comfortable cruise mode of Sparring...

    In a real Fight between them Roberto (in Cuevas / Moore Form) would have towed Alaya into the deep waters of the later rounds,...then Drowned him.
    Roberto to Versatile for a Bull with no Plan B.
     
  8. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Duran would have murdered him the minute Ayala got outta line.
     
  9. ThinBlack

    ThinBlack Boxing Addict banned

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    Duran probably would've beaten Ayala up, and made him an example to any young fighter looking to enhance his reputation at Duran's expense.The cops would still have to be called, however, and Ayala wouldn't **** Duran.
     
  10. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is this a serious thread ?
     
  11. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Duran's personality would not have allowed Ayala to beat up on him. I am surprised Cuevas let it happen, but he was probably caught off guard. I give Ayala credit for a good performance, but I don't really think it means he was better than the champion, especially someone like Cuevas who was a legit Hall of Fame fighter.
     
  12. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Duran would make the kid end his career before he reached his 'prime'. By being dead.
     
  13. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    if he's lucky
     
  14. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    this is just plain disrespectful
     
  15. CassiusClayAli

    CassiusClayAli Active Member Full Member

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    lax are you Tony? Why else would you mention him? No one even considers Tony great or even a good fighter. Kirkland now is considered better than Tony ever was. Tony caught Cuevas on a bad day and this is his claim to fame a sparring match?????? He never could fight with Cuevas or Hearns or Benitez, or Duran or Leonard or Hagler. THey would all beat him. They fought greats. They fought each other. Tony never proved anything. Why keep mentioning a guys name who did nothing in the boxing game? Nothing!Duran get beaten up by Tony in sparring? Ridiculous. Tony never sparred for fought anyone. Tony never had the honour of fighting a legend like Duran.