Michael Dokes

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Titan1, Jun 21, 2007.


  1. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Dokes had waited another year to fight for the title, could he have improved his skill set and been a better fighter when he challenged for the title, as opposed to how his championship reign turned out?
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Given that his problems were highly attributed to substance abuse and lifestyle problems, rather than experience, my answer would be no.

    The real question should be " If Dokes had stopped using his nose like a hoover vacuum cleaner, would he have prevailed as a fighter? "

    In which case my answer might have been yes.
     
  3. Bigcat

    Bigcat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dokes loses this one by a nose..

    Oreck XL.. and Dyson have nothing on Mike......

    That man had skills but just loved to party.......
     
  4. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. Dokes had extremely short arms for somebody of his height and reach, with a larger proportion of that reach concentrated in his collarbone than usual. He was fortunate to get his shot against Weaver in the post Mancini/Kim hysteria. Otherwise, he never would have become a champion. Even if he lived as cleanly as possible, there would have always been a ceiling on how far he could climb up the ladder of contention.
     
  5. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Agreed. Personally i think Dokes minus coke would have beaten Coetzee. Brought along perfectly minus coke he could have been a better fighter for sure.
     
  6. tommy the hat

    tommy the hat Active Member Full Member

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    I agree with Magoo here. Dokes' problems didn't stem from poor management or a lack of skill. He was a top flight amateur who beat up an old Ali in the gym regularly as a young pro barely out of his teens. Heavy cocaine use screwed Michael Dokes' career up. At one point it was so bad he was buying it by the kilo and he would snort or smoke every bit of it. Rather pathetic and a waste of God given talent if you ask me.
     
  7. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    NOPE! Dokes was primed to beat Weaver in 1982. However, Referee 'Joey Curtis' blew the fight and night with his quick stoppage... Dokes was always lazy and into partying pretty hardy... I fully understand... Dokes lost to Gerrie Coetzee because he was unfocused... That was Dokes' life story.... Dokes had skill and ability, but he pissed it all away... Simple...

    MR.BILL:patsch
     
  8. heehoo

    heehoo TIMEXICAH! Full Member

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    He also blew up to about 280 pounds and became a slow, plodding type as he got older. Too bad. He also nearly murdered his wife from what I understand and is in prison for it. Makes me feel less bad for him after seeing this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkpaKxO5rjA
     
  9. Charles White

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    Yeah, what's the story behind this, and when does he get out?
     
  10. heehoo

    heehoo TIMEXICAH! Full Member

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  11. Charles White

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  12. heehoo

    heehoo TIMEXICAH! Full Member

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    No problem, and yeah that is a messed up story.
     
  13. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dokes also benefited from the rematch. Weaver clearly outpointed Dokes. & somehow Dokes was awarded the decision.
     
  14. tommy the hat

    tommy the hat Active Member Full Member

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    Was scored a draw, but Dokes still kept his title as a result.
     
  15. heehoo

    heehoo TIMEXICAH! Full Member

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    The first fight between Weaver and Dokes is one of boxing's biggest robberies in my opinion.