I'm a little confused, and looking for answers from stateside posters. The concept of a Eurobum is well known to all on ESB. Those Europeans who hide away this side of the Atlantic, fighting opponents that are not only less fat, but more unknown to the American boxing cognescenti, whose opinions are all important. It's very easy to become labelled a Eurobum. Joe Calzaghe attracted the label for many years and, laughably, some still apply it, despite him travelling to America to beat the best available opponent in or around his weight division. Mikkel Kessler has been labelled a Eurobum, despite taking on road fights that, if presented to his American contempories his would cause a coughing fit, some mumbling about not paying that much to apply for a passport, and a frantic search for a good honest American OAP to fight. Which brings me to Tomasz Adamek. I'm perplexed. Here is a guy who has many of the ingrediants of Eurobumdon. An early career spent knocking over guys with losing records in the sports halls of Poland and the UK. Victories over Eurobum perenials like Ismael Abdoul. He then went to America, to fight twice against an Aussie-based New Zealander, who had also not fought outside his own continent previously. He did step up to fight (but lose) against current American hypejob of the month Chad Dawson. Then back to knocking over stiffs at a new weight. But all the Americans on ESB seem to treat him with a strange reverence. He's seen as a good name on Dawson's resume, even though he never beat anyone much to get there. Dawson, they say, ooh he's beaten Tarver, Johnson and Adamek. So, please, de-perplex me. Why is Tomasz Adamek not a Eurobum?
Knocking over stiffs, such as the former undisputed champion of a weightclass 25 lbs north of his? :rofl
nothing to do with inferiority it's just they don't like the **** alot of americans on the site talk, surely you must have seen this yourself.
It's sooooo f&*king true. lol. If I have to hear one more Euro going on about 'Yanks' I'm going to have to pretend I'm not a big Calzaghe and Kessler fan. My guess is that these are Euro equivalents of 'rednecks' who've never even been to the US.
Very much former, yes. Bell looked like a stiff in his last two fights, which is all he's done in the past nearly three years. But this is the kind of thing we're looking for, please expand further on Adamek's non-Eurobum achievements.
Cuz he exported his arse to America. The same reason why Golota ain't a Eurobum . . . although he really is. LOL. True.
No, many of them have a complex. They talk a whole bunch of **** about American fighters themselves. So let's not act like it's a one way street. And the threadstarter is exaggerating. Many posters don't consider Kessler to be a bum, and many give fighters like Calzaghe and the Klits proper credit. Are there haters? Of course, but every top fighter has them.
Adamek fights anyone, anytime, that is why he is not a Eurobum. He took Dawson on as a voluntary defence, went to Germany to KO Ulrich, fought in the States against Briggs and KOed O'neil Bell. And now he's fighting for the Ring/IBF Cruiserweight championship.
So beating an Aussie who's never left Australia before in America = good. Beating an Aussie who's rarely left Australia before in Australia = still a Eurobum. You don't care about the standard of opposition, but purely the geographical location of the fights? Interesting.
Here's another thing, the majority of people that hype up Adamek are Polish. Someone find me all of these threads were Americans are heaping all of this praise on Adamek. Adamek is definately a good fighter and has taken on some tough challenges, but let's not act like the majority of Americans on this forum are hyping him up.