Haye can't make noise weight 215

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  1. rickx1

    rickx1 Legend Full Member

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    Haye will beat any heavyweight out there.
    Watch and see.
     
  2. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    Still waiting for your top 20 p4p of all-time, ducker.
     
  3. Nero

    Nero Moscow Never Sleeps Full Member

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    It's a lot to do with David's speed.
    It is probably the biggest advantage Haye has compare to the current top heavyweights.
    He can't afford losing it.
     
  4. bigG

    bigG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    if yer good enough, yer big enough..end of argument...
     
  5. The Hayemaker will develop into a perfect 100 kg heavy… that’s all the weight you need. :bbb
     
  6. 2ironmt

    2ironmt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    215-220 is fine to compete against this crop of hw's. that seems to be a healthy weight for his frame. there's only 2 fit, really good super hw's (the klitchkos) where his size will be somewhat of a disadvantage. the rest either aren't that big (just overweight) or aren't that good (valuev, audley, thompson, etc). I'll take 220 and fit vs 245 and out of shape most times
     
  7. rickx1

    rickx1 Legend Full Member

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    Ducker?
    I don't see how somebody can 'duck' on the internet?
    But then again, The internet is your life and you treat it like it's real life, Poor you, Not knowing what the difference between the reality and virtual world.
    Clearly, you spend way too much time in darkened rooms in front of your seven-year-old computer turning a whiter shade of pale.
    Go outside once in a while and breathe, before your brain starts to rot from all that festering stagnation and cognitive dysfunction.
     
  8. leedsnproud

    leedsnproud Member Full Member

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    You guys are deluded if you think Haye beats either Klit. He didnt look good against a bad Barrett ,he was down n proved nothing. His chin is weak and he aint no Holyfield.
     
  9. Akxtinguish

    Akxtinguish Belt holder Full Member

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    Exactly. He hits hard anyway, so there's no point looking for extra power, especially if it means slower and easily avoidable punches.

    He needs to stay light and capitalize on his speed advantage (both hands and feet). Putting on unecessary weight will make him easier to catch, and it won't make the chin harder anyway.
     
  10. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Since Corbett 178 beat Sullivan 212, a lot of outweighed HW's have performed brilliantly over the years. He should come in @ the highest weight that does not effect his speed, movement, and stamina. If that's 215, then stay there. If he can go up more without sacrificing speed, movement and stamina, then keep eating.
     
  11. Cultured Fist

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    There seems to be an opinion these days that the bigger you are the better you are it's partly why people ludicrously thought that someone like Tye Fields was a contender. Haye already has serious power and good speed if he puts on significant weight he'll slow down, have less stamina and be more likely to get knocked out.
     
  12. tri-pod

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    tyson was at his best at 212-220. holyfield would come in and weight 205-215 for his fights. they both did fine. Haye should not up his weight. he already has power. and he already has speed. and he is in shape. if he loses to the klitchkos it is because he lost to the better fighter. although i have not seen enough of Haye at heavy to make my decision yet. only time will tell.
     
  13. mexican legend

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    220 is the ideal weight for him. He is the savior of the heavyweight division like it or not. I hope he can weigh 220 on a consistent basis.
     
  14. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    215lbs is a good weight for a solid, strong, agile Heavyweight. If he balloons to, say, 235lbs, just for the sake of being heavier, he'll be worse for it.
     
  15. eltorrente

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    Bigger does not equal better, when you consider the fact that most "big men" wouldn't weigh nearly as much as they do if they were in shape. So many HW's these days get gassed after throwing 20-30 punches a round and have man boobs - what a disgrace. The ATGs of the HW division have generally weighed 220 or less, with certain exceptions.

    In today's sorry state of the HW division, we can have fat out of shape former MW's, body building asthmatics, and fat asses with man boobs winning belts. Pathetic.