I just thought about this

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  1. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    manny has a better record, and resume than oscar...and he's actually won all his biggest fights (well except for both marquez fights) :deal:deal:deal
     
  2. Blue145

    Blue145 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Still gonna get KO'd
     
  3. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Against who? Past primed legends. :good

    If that's the case, then Oscar's win over old Chavez towers in accomplishment over wins over old Barrera's and old Morales'.
     
  4. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Manny has a nice resume... but you are forgetting the first Morales fight too.
     
  5. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    he avenged it, something oscar never ever did....:deal
     
  6. Jbuz

    Jbuz Belt folder Full Member

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    If you count the Trinidad and Mosley victories then it's not close. But yes, Pac has a fantastic resume.
     
  7. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    really though, what makes oscar so great....
    i aint saying he aint a bad mutha****a, cause he is...but what seperates him from every other fighter....he's fought the best simply cause a lot of fighters were jealous of him having good looks, and a lot of money very young.....also, he's like every fighters financial "raise" in boxing.... if not for an aging chavez and his good looks, where would oscar be right now....toooooooooo many close controversial fights, toooooooooooo many let downs...
     
  8. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    I am with the belief tha the avenged his close loss to Shane Mosley. I don't need the judges to tell me who won that fight.
     
  9. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Dude, where would Pacquiao be without an aging Barrera and Morales???!

    Contreversial??? How about both Marquez fights???!

    I don't understand Freddy, why you are using double standards with Oscar. I feel you let the "Hate Oscar" FAD get to you.
     
  10. Jbuz

    Jbuz Belt folder Full Member

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    What makes him so great?

    The fact that he's fought every great fighter within his reach of his generation. Chavez, Whitaker, Mosley, Trinidad, Hopkins, Mayweather, Vargas, Pacquiao, Quartey among others. Yeah he lost a few, but ignoring "official" decisions, he really beat the majority of them. And yes, I know that he didn't do so convincingly, hence why it went against him a couple of times... but that's also why he isn't rated as one of THE greatest of all time.

    A credit to the sport in a time where the best fighters avoid each other. :good
     
  11. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Are you saying a younger barrera beats Pacquiao?
     
  12. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Oscar is older now than Chavez or Whitaker were he moved up in weight and took their titles from them. Considering that he fought...

    Trinidad
    Mosley Twice
    Chavez twice
    Whitaker
    Vargas
    Quartey
    Mayorga
    Hopkins
    Hernandez
    Gonzalez
    John John Molina
    Camacho
    Carr
    Mayweather
    Pacman up next....

    Along with guys like Gatti, Campas, Castillejo, Leija, Sturm, Forbes, Paez, Bredhal, Rivera, ect....

    I think that it is clear what makes Oscar great. He fought all of those fighters, and you can make a case that he won every single fight outside of his loss to Hopkins. He may not have gotten every decision, but you can make a case for him winning every single one of those fights besides BHOP.... who is MUCH bigger than Oscar, than Oscar is to Pac.

    Oscar didn't have to fight all of those guys... he could have racked up serious cash just fighting lower class guys like most other fighters do... only Oscar could have made more than those other guys while doing it. Yet, Oscar fought mega fight after mega fight, and now he gets bashed for it. It's pathetic.
     
  13. HyperBone

    HyperBone Silverback Gorilla Full Member

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    you've always been a ******
     
  14. brickfists

    brickfists The Nonpareil Full Member

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    well lets see

    in there two fights manny is 1-0-1 jmm is 0-0-1 manny scored 4 knockdowns jmm scored none

    i think that says it all

    marquez is manny's biatch:lol:
     
  15. JIM KELLY

    JIM KELLY Bullshyt Mr Han Man! Full Member

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    orale!!!