MMA Vs Boxing

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Infern0, Nov 23, 2008.


  1. Mob

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    Maybe........but if Lesnar took him off his feet,..Vitaly would be screwed.
     
  2. MMAFIGHTER1

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    THIS IS RIDICULOUS THEY R 2 DIFFERENT SPORTS A PURE BOXER IS ALWAYS GONNA HAVE TROUBLE IN MMA CUZ THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERNT WAYS 2 WIN AND WAS 2 LOSE THE SECOND HE GOES 2 DUCK A PUNCH BY BENDING OVER HES EATING KNEES SOMETHING HES NEVER HAD 2 WATCH OUT 4 . AND ON THE OTHER HAND I SAY A PURE MMA GUY WOULD BE LOST IN A JUST BOXING MATCH IT LIMITS HIM SOOOOO MUCH FROM WHAT HE CAN DO. ITS JUST NOT A FAIR COMPARSION. ON 2 WRESTLERS DEF THEY HAVE THE SMOOTHEST TRANSFER 2 MMA CUZ MOST OF THE FIGHTS GO 2 THE GROUND ANYWAYS I HATE WRESTLERS HAHAHA AGAIN JUST MY THOUGHTS:roll:
     
  3. ufoalf

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    Try typing wihtout capslock on, maybe then someone will read what you say.
     
  4. T.C.W

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    different sports, the only thing in common is that they are combat sports and one on one, thats it. If the top guys did either sport had a go at other with no training , both would have 0.000001 chance of winning. It is like the top racket ball player playing Nadel in tennis, there both similar sports with hitting a ball but totally different.
     
  5. El Puma

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    :deal:thumbsup
     
  6. podcast

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    TBH neither sport is 'real' fighting. Boxing fans in general seem to get this, MMA fans less so.

    You'd be silly to do most BJJ moves against Tyson (for example) because his survival instincts would take over and your just so vulnerable. Imagine all the nasty things he could do to you.
     
  7. ufoalf

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    :lol:

    You've never grappled before.
     
  8. podcast

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    Yes I have, your hands are tied up. Someone could gouge your eyes out, snap your fingers back, bite your nose/ear off or yank your balls off.

    It's a skill a great skill but it's not no-hold's bar, much of the stuff would be compromised. Royce Gracie himself has said he's never take a streetfight to the ground.
     
  9. ufoalf

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    Ppl gota stfu about that quote. It's taken out of context EVERY single time, 99% of the time by people who've never grappled before.
    You could do the same cheap **** to Tyson. Except he wouldn't know how to deal with you once you have him in an armbar. If you know how to handle yourself on the ground, YOU are the one who's gona be doing all of the eye gaugin and limb breaking. You will know how to control your body weight, position, etc.

    Tyson vs BJJ's... good purple belt, on the ground, no rules, same weight. BJJ guy wins 10/10. Please untie my hands.
     
  10. podcast

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    Yes you could and that would be a 'real' fight.

    Ooh that stuff is better to know,you can never have too much knowledge. If you get him on the ground your at a massive advantage (assuming your as nasty a muther****a of course). Though any sane man would never want to be in that posistion.

    But that doesn't mean what goes on in the UFC is real fighting, it's legal fighting theirs a difference. Even if you see what the UFC was like 10 years ago to now you can see a difference.
     
  11. SouthpawSlayer

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    taken from http://www.blickees.com/articles/7/...ead-with-the-quotSweet-Sciencequot/Page1.html

    just to sum up some bs i heard about mma surpassing boxing

    MMA vs. Boxing: America’s Fastest Growing Sport Goes Head to Head with the “Sweet Science.”




    The debate has been ongoing ever since UFC’s pay-per view numbers from 2006 were released. The UFC broke the pay-per-view industry’s all-time records for a single year of business, generating over $222,766,000 in revenue during 2006, surpassing WWE and boxing. Has boxing’s reign as the premiere combat sport come to an end? As quickly as you might answer one way or the other, let’s look at the most important factors in determining the leading sport:



    Most Recognizable Fighters:



    MMA has spearheaded into popularity, largely due to the commercial success of UFC and The Ultimate Fighter. The Ultimate Fighter has helped create household names such as Forrest Griffin, Diego Sanchez and most recently Nate Diaz. Roger Huerta became the first Mixed Martial Artists to grace the cover of Sports Illustrated, and Chuck Liddell not only graced the cover of ESPN the Magazine, but also starred in an episode of “Entourage.”



    Lately, everywhere you turn, an MMA fighter’s face is garnering mainstream attention. However, there is hardly an athlete in any sport that has created a stronger brand or that carries more name recognition than Oscar De La Hoya, who has generated over $500 million in pay-per-view buys over the course of his career. Floyd Mayweather Jr. has become a house hold name since his relatively timid win over De La Hoya this year. Despite a heavyweight division filled with more characters from a “Stallone” movie than actual contenders, names of less relevant aging fighters can still be found on the tips of casual fighting fan’s lips. (e.g., Evander Holyfield, and Roy Jones Jr.)



    Advantage: Boxing





    Bigger Commercial Success





    The UFC’s 2006 pay-per-view sales have led many people to speculate on the death of boxing. How else could you explain, one promotion outselling an entire sport? The numbers tell the story, and as the saying goes, “Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t.” But I think we’re looking at the wrong numbers. Boxing is coming off of the biggest boxing pay-per-view ever with 2.15 million household buys. Not only that, but De La Hoya ended up bringing in close to $45 million for the fight, while Mayweather Jr. earned close to $20 million.



    In the biggest UFC fight, UFC 71, complete with ESPN coverage throughout the promotion, Chuck Liddell earned $500,000 and Quinton “Rampage” Jackson earned $225,000. With such a disparity between purses in the two sports, its hard to argue that MMA has surpassed Boxing commercially. The average sports fan actually does not even refer to the sport of Mixed Martial Arts as MMA. It’s commonly referred as “Caged Fighting”, “Ultimate Fighting” or as the ultimate sign of a one promotion monopoly, “UFC.”

    MMA is the fastest growing sport in America. However, it’s still has some growing up to do to catch the sport of boxing in commercial success.



    Advantage: Boxing
     
  12. ufoalf

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    There's Vale Tudo which has been dominated by Vale Tudo based fighters. UFC is not the only sport where grappling is very dominant knowledge.

    In a street fight you don't want to end up on the ground because there might be more people that can run up and kick you. THATS what Gracie was talkin about. If it's a 1v1 situation and grappling is your dominant combat area than there isn't a reason why you shouldn't take the person down.
     
  13. podcast

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    Your not allowed to do Vale Tudo anymore right? MMA is the safer legal alternative which is sorta my point.
     
  14. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not in US.

    What is your point?

    The argument is that you think using BJJ moves against Tyson is silly. I say its the only way to fight Tyson and easiest way to beat him. You say that he can do nasty stuff like eye gougin, fish hooking etc. I say you can do same **** to him. There isn't a technique for that. I'll take a BJJ guy to choke him out or break his arm and then choke him out while suffering and eye gouge or w/e.

    Tyson will be a helpless child on the ground against someone experience in BJJ. Him biting the ears off won't do him much good once he's asleep.
     
  15. podcast

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    No! Using the BJJ moves the same way as you do in MMA is silly 'cos it's got rules you'd fight BJJ a completely different way no hold's bar. I used Tyson as an example not beacause he's boxer but because he's a nasty freak.