Is there anyone here who wants Khan to lose but Froch to win?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Decebal, Dec 5, 2008.


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  1. mbrockett

    mbrockett ESB voyeur Full Member

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    Fair play, judging by your post count you prob know more than me! in any case im just glad Froch wants the top fights now, though Im not sure he has got the skills to be at the top to be honest.

    apparently you get a shot at the WBO cruiser weight title if your ranked 176 in the world at light heaveyweight though...

    anyway, my own annoyances with Khan are mainly because he won't fight Murray or Thaxton for the British title - surely the path should be British Title => Euro => World. Khan has a cheek and a half for calling out Pacquiao when he's not even the best on our shores.
     
    mbrockett, Dec 6, 2008
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  2. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Apparently Froch didn't want to win any 'fringe titles' such as the IBF and wanted to concentrate on the WBC, which was the big prize.

    Utter bull**** - he was just stalking Calzaghe!
     
    Beeston Brawler, Dec 6, 2008
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  3. kurt2006

    kurt2006 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Khan song :

    [YT]M3wgaWAHo2Q[/YT]

    Yo, I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want,
    So tell me what you want, what you really really want,
    I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want,
    So tell me what you want, what you really really want,
    I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna really
    really really wanna chin, brain and smaller ears.

    If you want my future forget my KO loss,
    If you wanna get with me I better lose by KO fast,
    Now don't go wasting my precious time,
    50 odd seconds is enough time

    I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want,
    So tell me what you want, what you really really want,
    I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna really
    really really wanna chin, brain and smaller ears.
     
    kurt2006, Dec 6, 2008
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  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    As far as I remember, Froch was offered a fight against Calzaghe for the WBO by Warren, but he didn't take it because he wasn't ready; it was a while ago, though...i.e. either before or just after the Lacy fight, etc. (Don't ask me to give you a source, because I can't remember where I read it/heard it) From the same source, Bute was offered a fight against Froch too, around the same time, and he didn't take it either, because he wasn't ready.

    So...Froch could have fought Calzaghe...and he could have won the WBO belt as his first belt, if what I read/heard was correct.

    It's good to always bear in mind that boxing is a business, not a sport. Promoters/fighters always make decisions by looking at the risk/reward of a possible fight. That risk/reward might change in time. A couple of years back, Froch didn't think it was worth risking to lose against Calzaghe for the peanuts/options combo that Warren would have offered. Now, like Bute and everyone else, that ratio has changed, and they all want to fight him.;)
     
    Decebal, Dec 6, 2008
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  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Not sure it was just Calzaghe that made him decide to step it up; he was getting on a bit and he hadn't done much and there was no one left to fight on the domestic scene - wasted potential. Sure, Calzaghe was a huge pull given the risk/reward...even a 90% chance of losing would be well worth it given the money and publicity involved in such a fight at this stage...that's why everyone wants to fight Calzaghe...particularly guys who don't have anything to lose if they lose to him.
     
    Decebal, Dec 6, 2008
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  6. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I think Warren wanted options on Froch - and the £££ will probably have been a bit short.

    But - you can't turn down an offer and then accuse the guy of ducking you!
     
    Beeston Brawler, Dec 6, 2008
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  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Warren would definitely have wanted options and Hennessy would have been mad to give in...he had made next to nothing on Froch by then. Froch was just working his way through the Magees of this world and it didn't make sense to take a fight like that for peanuts. In hindsight, he should have taken it, because as a name on Calzaghe's resume, he'd have been well known...but it might not have all been up to him, given whatever contract he'd have had with his promoter...who...after all, in the end...gave him the title fight he wanted.
     
    Decebal, Dec 6, 2008
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  8. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Obviously as an outsider, I have no real idea about how these sort of things work....

    Warren might want Froch's next three fights for a set fee, I don't know.

    Hennessy SEEMS a pretty sincere sort of fella, whilst Warren is an egoistic maniac - who seems reluctant to ever stage a joint promotion.
     
    Beeston Brawler, Dec 6, 2008
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  9. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    From my point of view, I'd rather trust Warren than Hennessy...don't trust the guy one bit after all the rubbish he prints in the press about Froch's peers and betters ducking him etc.

    SAYING THAT, I CAN'T FIND THE SOURCE, AND IT WASN'T A RELIABLE (INDEPENDENT) ONE EITHER, SO NO POINT IN GOING ON ABOUT THIS OR TAKING IT AS FACT.
     
    Decebal, Dec 6, 2008
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  10. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Probably so - at least with Warren you know what you are going to get. He is very good at nurturing less than stellar fighters and giving them a decent living - most fighters are quite happy to be in such a position.

    His biggest failing is his ability to manage big fighters - he tends to either hold them back too much (Hatton) or push the panic button (Khan going on PPV). Instead of giving them a taster of elite fights, he totally holds them back until they force him into a position where he has to act.

    Hennessy seems completely unable to 'sell' a fighter - his marketing is shocking. All they seem to do is call out other fighters, making ridiculous claims of substantial offers to the 'name fighters' to face his men. Could he really put £400k up for Khan to face Thaxton and not lose a fortune?
     
    Beeston Brawler, Dec 6, 2008
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  11. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I disaprove of his tactics, but they are effective...look at Froch.
     
    Decebal, Dec 6, 2008
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  12. kurt2006

    kurt2006 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hennassy shows are ****. At least FW has the girls form the Spearmint Rhino girls for the ring cards. Mick has mongs from ming land, some of the most ugly looking females ever, maybe Hennassy is doing his bit for butch lesbians.
     
    kurt2006, Dec 6, 2008
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  13. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I wouldn't have said he has 'sold' Froch at all - Froch has done most of the work himself.

    Warren is much better at putting guys 'out there', Hatton used to do allsorts, as did Calzaghe.
     
    Beeston Brawler, Dec 6, 2008
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  14. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    i hope they both get battered,2 gob shites that have done **** all to back up their **** talking.
     
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  15. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I disagree...just look at the number of articles in the tabloids about Froch in the last year or so...he's the fighter most is written about in Britain after Khan, Calzaghe and Hatton...who do you think arranges all those articles?
     
    Decebal, Dec 6, 2008
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