Pacquiao weirded out by questionable scale at weigh-in

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  1. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Yeah... it only cheated for their weigh in though. Every undercard fighter weighed in on the same scales, and they happened to be fine then. Maybe... Pac should stop buying his scales from K-Mart, and rest his judgement that the third party and state commission know how to register, and approve an official scale. I can go to my grandma's house and weigh 4 pounds different than the scale in my bathroom too. That is why little portable K-Mart scales are cheap pieces of ****.
     
  2. aj415

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  3. IsaL

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    Pac has a huge interest in saying DLH cheated.

    1. Millions of Dollars
    2. Excuse for getting KTFO
     
  4. DobyZhee

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    there's so many things that can be fixed in boxing, its not even funny and this may well be one of them.
     
  5. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Explain this then....

    Directly before Manny and Oscar jumped onto the scales... both of the top two undercard bouts were weighed in on the same scale. All 4 fighters came in EXACTLY on weight. Both Ortiz and Resto weighed exactly 140 for their fight, and both Lopez and Medina weighed exactly 122.

    Any reasoning as to how the scale could possibly be perfect, on the money for the other fighters, but as soon as Oscar and Pac come out, the scale is so off the mark?

    It's bull****. Pac is obviously letting fear get to him... if he even made those remarks.
     
  6. wansen

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    Didn't PAC weigh-in around 141 or so after a workout on the last episode of 24/7? It seems to me that he weighed in at his dried out/after workout weight weight. Also, WidowMaker makes a good point, wouldn't all the undercard fighter's weight be 'off' as well?
     
  7. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    The day of reckoning has come for Pac, and his accusations confirm it.
     
  8. MrMagic

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    Freddy Roach did look surprised.

    If DLH weighed in over the 147lbs limit this morning, he sure as hell would have it fixed in his favor, no doubt about it.
     
  9. IsaL

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    Exactly, if the scales were tampered with, then all the undercard fighters would be well over the weight limit.

    It goes to show you how desperation on the part of the haters hinders their reasoning.
     
  10. DobyZhee

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    you obviously didn't see the secret cut compartment underneath the platform that held the scales. There was a guy inside that fixed it. Ever watch a magic show in Vegas..secret compartments are used all the time.
     
  11. maracho

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    Looks like everyone wants a piece of the millions of $$$

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    Muaricio Sulaiman

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    Even Don King got involved for old buddy Jose Sulaiman

    By Ronnie Nathanielsz
    WBC secretary general
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    that while he understands the emotions surrounding the issue of the overdue obligations of Filipino ring idol Manny Pacquiao and the sanction fee being levied on him for the “Dream Match” with Oscar De La Hoya, some of the “assumptions and comments”, including our own, have been “unfair.”
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    who was re-elected last week during the 46th Annual Convention in Chengdu, China after serving the premier world boxing organization for the past 33 years, said the the $30,000 owed by Pacquiao was for the Juan Manuel Marquez fight.
    Sulaiman told insidesports.ph, Standard Today and Viva Sports that the “local contract was registered for $3 million and the WBC was paid only on $2 million.” He said they were “immediately told by Michael Koncz that they would send the balance and the WBC did nothing to stop the (David) Diaz fight out of respect for Manny and we were promised in good faith the situation would be settled.”
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    pointed out that the WBC was “not a collection agency and we trust that promises are kept.” So far the WBC has been paid only $60,000 for the Marquez fight.
    Regarding the sanction fee for the De La Hoya fight, the WBC secretary general said Kincz and Top Rank “are familiar with the WBC rule that a champion must pay a fee when not defending his title” and pointed out that it was Koncz who “sent the ridiculous offer of $20,000” for the De La Hoya fight which he said made the organization “look like beggars and mercenaries.”
    Sulaiman noted that “there is no negotiation or bargain. It is simply a flat fee to support Manny. He is the WBC champion and as such has rights and also has obligations. The rules stipulate that a WBC champion entering the ring without defending his title must pay a sanction fee. It is not a new rule and it has been followed by many fighters in our history.”
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    said it was only then that the WBC stated that $100,000 would be “a fair amount and much less than the 1.5 percent” even as he said that if the amount of $100,000 was more, based on the rules and the actual purse “of course we would reduce the figure.”
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    in the floor discussions and they were “open opinions” pointing out that at this time “nobody knows the true amount” of Pacquiao’s purse.
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    stressed “we all want Manny to make as much money as possible. We don’t want to distract him. We just want to be respected and not offended.”
    We were able to get a copy of Koncz’s letter addressed to
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    and Rex Walker which Koncz signed as “Adviser to Manny Pacquiao” in which he stated “we would respectfully request and propose the following: 1. That Manny Pacquiao retain his status as WBC lightweight champion. 2. That a sanctioning fee of $20,000 be paid by Manny to the WBC for the bout with De La Hoya on 12-6-08. 3.That Manny be allowed to have one more fight after the 12-6-08 bout before he is obligated to make a mandatory defense of his 135 lb lightweight title. The requested additional bout would again be a non-title fight in the first ¼ of 2009 at a higher weight class against Ricky Hatton or Floyd Mayweather. 4. As to the outstanding sanction fee owed from the 3-15-08 Marquez bout as brought to our attention by the WBC in the amount of $30,000. This shall be verified by Manny and Top Rank’s accounting department and if confirmed be paid to the World Boxing Council.”
    In response to our question on whether De La Hoya also had to pay a sanction fee Sulaiman responded, “he has no fee to pay because he is not a current WBC champion. The rule applies only to a champion."
    Sulaiman claimed that Philippine Games and Amusements Board chairman Eric Buhain was “very supportive of Manny” and that the WBC wants to handle the issue with “the respect that Manny and the country of the Philippines as well as our organization deserve.”
    Sulaiman added “Manny is our hero and we love Manny and regret how this matter has gotten out of context. It was the convention floor that got into it. Not only about Manny but also about (Kelly) Pavlik and (Humberto) Soto.”
    The WBC executive expressed the hope that the organization will get “the opportunity to clarify any matter as the way it is published it leads to misinterpretations.”
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    However, when it comes to scale rigging it has often been from the Bob Arum side. Remember how the weigh in rules were suddenly changed for the Cotto/Malignaggi fight; or when a doctor put his foot under Castillo’s scale; or when the FBI charged Arum for scale tampering, medical record tampering, and trying to fix the Mosley/Hoya fight?
     
  12. Boom_Boom

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    pac bringing this up because of fear is a ******ed explanation.

    every pound oscar is up above 147 he owes Pacman 3 million, so if the scales were rigged DLH owes pacman 6 million, thats alot of money to legitmately fix a scale i know i would if that much money was at stake.

    Scales being rigged is more understanding than Oscar making 147 with ease.
     
  13. IsaL

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    Actually if you look very close, you can see some invisible string magicians use, pulling ODLH slightly up. :shock:
     
  14. Little Pea

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    :rofl:rofl
     
  15. DobyZhee

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    :rofl

    Come on bro, you should know about Secret compartments. How do you think they transfer all them illegals and drugs into the US from Mexico?

    just messin' with everyone on this thread. being from a poor background, Pac is very supersticous and stuff.