Greatest 'avoided' fighters

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  1. Jimmy_Jazz

    Jimmy_Jazz Tinpot Titleholder Full Member

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    I accept that the terms 'ducked' and 'avoided' are somewhat loose and subjective in boxing; nevertheless, which great fighters would you most associate with such terms over the years?

    Langford
    Burley
    Charles (at light heavy)
    McCallum
    Briscoe

    Only a few there for starters. Any others? It probably gets done to death in most boxing circles but never mind.
     
  2. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'll throw in...

    Lloyd Marshall
    Jimmy Bivins
    Melio Bettina
    Teddy Yarosz
    Eddie Booker
    Lennox Lewis
     
  3. Nick Balsamo

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    Charley Burley is an obvious ATG with great names missing on his resume. Pretty sad we don't have much proofs on tape to justify that high ranking. Could he beat Robinson ? Maybe...

    Mike McCallum was notoriously avoided by the Fab 4 too. Too cagey and crafty for the money he could bring to the table. The risk wasn't worth it because at the time, he could've beat each and every one of Leonard, Duran, Hearns and Hagler, all of them were past their prime and looking for a few big name-big reward fights. A true pain in the ass to fight and all of them knew it.
     
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    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holman Williams
     
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    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Archie Moore
     
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    SteveO MSW Full Member

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    Earnie Shavers is oft regarded as a ducked man.
     
  7. heehoo

    heehoo TIMEXICAH! Full Member

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    Earnie Shavers, becaus ehe power was scary.

    Ray Robinson's manager made it a point to avoid Charley Burley because he felt Burley would embarrass him. The story goes something like this:

    "George Gainford, the manager of the peerless Sugar Ray Robinson, admitted he "bupassed" - read: "ducked" Burley - "because his style would have counteracted Robinson's" and asked Ray Arcel, "Can't you get me someone besides Burley?"
     
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    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    from the modern day i would say winky wright
     
  9. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Peter Jackson
    Joe Jennette
    Sam McVey
    and of course Harry Wills
     
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    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    Langford and Greb. I know I know Greb won a title but he was beating champions easily as early as 1917 and didnt get an official title shot until the second half of 1923, six years and over 100 fights later. Never got a shot at the light heavy title which he deserved since 1917 and never got a shot at the heavy title despite fighting several elimination bouts for a title shot and winning.
     
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    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jimmy Bivins
    Harry Greb
    Charley Burley
    Maybe Jimmy Young and Mike McCallum.
     
  12. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    HE turned down 6m to face DLH and 40% against FMJ, wasnt it him who walked from the Taylor rematch too (I had him winning I think)

    I'd go with HErol Graham from recent times, he went 35-0 while being avoided by many, was avoided by the best of British like Eubank, Benn, Watson. Him and McCallum/Kalambay were there own mini Murderers Row

    Witter was pretty much avoided, Hatton ducked him, he couldnt get fights with world class fighters and even managed to get to be Mayweathers mandatory. Not that Witter was that good but he was avoided. What about Vivian Harris, Mayweather/Hatton/Cotto all removed themselves from being his mandatory but he was hard to do business with and wasnt a draw
     
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    When did they avoid him?
     
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    Ron Lyle
     
  15. doug.ie

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    jack johnson :)