I just thought about this

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Manny Pacquiao

    Juan Manuel Marquez (Contreversial DRAW) (Contreversial WIN)
    Marco Antonio Barrera (old) 2 wins
    Erik Morales (old) 1 loss 2 wins
    Oscar Larios (W)


    Oscar De La Hoya

    Rafael Ruelas
    Genaro Hernandez
    Miguel Angel Gonzalez
    Jesse James Leija
    Julio Cesar Chavez X 2 (old)
    Ike Quartey
    Ricardo Mayorga (Roids)
    Fernando Vargas (Roids)
    Pernell Whitaker (Contr. W)
    Hector Camacho (old)
    Shane Mosley II (Roids) (Contr. L)
    Felix Trinidad (Contr. L)
    Bernard Hopkins (L)

    You gotta be kidding me Freddy!:-(
     
    IsaL, Dec 5, 2008
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  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    So much for Pac having a better resume :D
     
    IsaL, Dec 5, 2008
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  3. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    :lol::lol:

    if you didn't think so then, now you do...:good


    oscar's a *****
     
    freddy-wak, Dec 8, 2008
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  4. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Im not sure who i think has the better resume... i think id lean towards oscar on that one.

    That being said... the amount of controversial fights he has is ridicoulas.

    Ike
    Trinidad
    Sturm
    Mosley 2

    Seems like his fans like to say well he beat mosley the second time and trinidad... yet discount the fact that almost everyone has sturm beating him besides the official decision, and plenty more have ike a draw.

    I just hate how people pick what they want because it suits them...
    i realise thats natural, people are going to do that... it just annoys me.

    That being said... i cant put pacs resume above oscars YET... though the time may come where thats possible.

    Oscar fighting Trinidad, Mosley, Ike, Mayweather, Hopkins and Vargas means a lot.... all of them were top fighters and dangerous at the time. With Tito, Mayweather and Hopkins being ATG's....

    But... pac is in his prime and has a few years left.... he can do it.

    If he fights a combination of the following

    Baby Bull
    Cambell
    JMM 3
    Hatton
    Guzman
    Valero

    i think it becomes a true argument then
     
    kirk, Dec 8, 2008
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  5. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Freddy... so how was it watching the fight? was chino and coyote sad or what? or nah? what were your thoughts and or feelings on it?
     
    kirk, Dec 8, 2008
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  6. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're also forgetting he also has 2 ko losses, so he did catch up with Hoya there.
     
    eliqueiros, Dec 8, 2008
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  7. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    c'mon freddy... :rofl


    I think JMM has better resume... he beat pac twice (according to mexicans) and won over super prime MAB and ultra prime Casa.

    And most people thought he got robbed against P4P king Chris John. :deal
     
    enzo, Dec 8, 2008
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  8. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    that's the thing though bro, it aint just about who's on your resume, it's about how you did against them :good
     
    freddy-wak, Dec 8, 2008
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  9. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    china was being a pansy ass, he didnt watch it with us...coyote was mad, and i was happy :lol:

    i'm just glad oscar finally got a taste of his own medicine :deal

    and before **** gets twisted, i think the man is badass, but his last years were business only, and i truly can't respect that, atleast not in the fight game....but on wallstreet, he's the p4p king :happy
     
    freddy-wak, Dec 8, 2008
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  10. heart

    heart Active Member Full Member

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    pacmans best wins are against over the hill greats. he needs to quit cherrypicking and stay at a weight that suites him like lightweight, and try taking on some of the threats there.
     
    heart, Dec 8, 2008
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  11. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    barrera was 29
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    morales was 28 and mostly everybody thought manny was gonna for sure get ko'd in the rematch
     
    freddy-wak, Dec 8, 2008
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  12. heart

    heart Active Member Full Member

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    his first win over barrera is legit. second barrera fight it was obvious barrera wasn't a fraction of his former self. Same with the II and III morales fights- Morales didn't have his legs, just like against Diaz. Morales final masterpiece was the first fight, his farewell tribute. I gave Morales the nod in the Diaz fight but you could tell he was just worn out.
     
    heart, Dec 8, 2008
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  13. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    his second win against Morales was legit! :deal

    pac was coming in as the underdog.
     
    enzo, Dec 8, 2008
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  14. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    When did you hear that Mayorga was on roids?:huh:think

    I know the stories on Mosley and Vargas, never heard the mayorga one.
     
    elTerrible, Dec 8, 2008
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  15. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Actully you are right.....aside from your salty last statement that you and everyone else knows is not true. If things were honest and there were no contrvesry PAC would be 2-0 against JMM....but you are right...over all PAC's record has surpassed DLH....and many other greats in the game or out.
     
    charlievint, Dec 9, 2008
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