Adamek: "We Know That Cunningham Doesn't Punch Hard"

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    The fights with Wlodarcyk are what make me believe Adamek will beat Cunningham.
     
  2. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I would imagine if Steve got any kind of exposure in the US the voting would have been different but most people here havent seen him fight and dont know much about him and that is why that thread was mostly occupied by Euro posters.

    Steve has some good wins im not tearing the man down im only pointing out that it took about 30 seconds to realize that Huck's late start in Boxing was very obvious.
     
  3. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Simple story: If Cunningham fights for at least 7 rounds like he did the first 4 rounds of his rematch with Diablo, he wins the fight. If not, Adamek wins. I don't think Cunningham has the stamina or resolve to keep up that kind of workrate for more than a few rounds, and I suspect Adamek will win by pressing the action and working inside Cunningham's jab.
     
  4. emanuel_augustus

    emanuel_augustus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How so???

    I thought Cunningham won both of those, but the first fight was close. Sloppy fight.

    Wlodarczyk is a strong pressure fighter who walks in close, crowds, then tries to land hard shots. A bad style matchup for a boxer like Cunningham, yet he was effective when he kept Wlodarcyzk at distance, when Wlod did get inside he would either step around or clinch. Cunningham boxed much better in the rematch and was more effective.

    Adamek has a completely different style from Wlodarcyzk. Adamek is a boxer/puncher who fights at range and combination punches behind the jab.

    Adamek won't be able to bull his way in like Wlodarcyzk did in spots against Cunningham because A. It's not his style and B. I don't believe he's as strong as Wlodarczyk is. Adamek has a good jab, but Cunningham's is better and faster.

    What will Adamek's strategy be? He can't outjab and outbox Cunningham and I honestly don't believe he's even a stronger fighter on the inside. That leaves him in no-man's land.
     
  5. emanuel_augustus

    emanuel_augustus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yet many said he was a clincher, couldn't box, wasn't strong enough, etc. as if they had seen enough of him to know.

    You're right, Cunningham's circumstances have been that he has gotten zero exposure on U.S. television. That's really too bad, because he's a very good boxer.

    I'm an American, by the way, and knew about Cunningham. Then again, admitted boxing addict here.
     
  6. Brickhaus

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    Because Wlodarczyk barely threw punches in either fight, yet he still managed to win his fair share of rounds simply because Cunningham (a) ran out of steam and just kept clinching over and over and (b) refused to engage in all but about 5 rounds between the two fights. If Cunningham's power serves as a real deterrent to Adamek, then it might end up similar, but we all know that Adamek is willing to put on pressure and go to war. Frankly, all the best fighters Cunningham has faced have been either counterpunchers or one-punch fighters (i.e. don't throw in combos), and I'm pretty confident that Cunningham will get overwhelmed if Adamek is able to get inside on him. Problem is that it would end up looking like a John Ruiz fight with all the hugging Cunningham will probably instigate, but he can't win rounds against Adamek if he doesn't throw a fair number of punches.

    Cunningham can win if he can establish his jab (which he only did in about 3 rounds of the two Wlodarczyk fights), keep Adamek at a distance, and throw enough punches that the judges don't give Adamek rounds based on aggression alone. From what I've seen of Cunningham in the past, that seems like a tall order for him.
     
  7. Cruiser1

    Cruiser1 Champion Emeritus Full Member

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    Cunningham banked early rounds in the Diablo rematch and held on down the stretch. He won a couple of the late rounds but he won them on activity alone and not because of any dynamic offensive display. Why do you think they showed the Huck fight at Cunningham's gathering at the Fox and Hound in Philly last week? You'd figure that a champion would want to screen the fight in which he became champion but in this case, that wouldn't have been a good idea.
     
  8. Boxing Fanatic

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    Yeah, say that to Marco Huck!:patsch
     
  9. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Good post.
     
  10. emanuel_augustus

    emanuel_augustus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cunningham certainly didn't run out of steam. When they were at distance he landed lots of shots. The problem was that Wlod kept walking in (without a jab) and crowding. Cunningham is a long arm puncher and needs space to throw. I will also disagree with your (b). The sloppiness of the fight wasn't refusal to engage but rather refusal to capitulate to Wlod's style and just general awkwardness between the two.

    So this is the strategy. You've probably seen Adamek more than I have, but is he a war-type fighter? The Briggs fights were wars but Adamek still fights from a boxer/puncher style, not really forward aggression, yes?

    I'll disagree. Guillermo Jones doesn't fight as a counterpuncher at Cruiserweight. He throws a lot of shots. Rothmann and Huck also weren't counterpunchers.

    People say Cunningham hugs, but that really isn't true. Watch the Rothmann fight, there were virtually no clinches there, it was a clean match because Rothmann wasn't falling in. Cunningham threw a boatload of punches in that fight.

    Wlodarcyzk and Huck fall in without jabs and it makes for awkward fights. Clinching is a tactic a pure boxer should employ against those types of fighters. It's not failure to engage, it's not letting your opponent drape himself on you. When has Huck ever been in a clean boxing match? His fights always look sloppy.

    Adamek will be more at range, I think allowing Cunningham to look much better than he did even in stopping Huck.


    I'll agree with this. My thinking is though, that Adamek doesn't have the type of strength and aggression that makes Cunningham look bad. Past fights that I've seen indicate that he'll be there to be hit. If that's the case, styles being equal, Cunningham has all the advantages and will win.

    Adamek needs to be more aggressive than I've seen him before to have a chance in this fight.

    Good post, by the way.
     
  11. CLUBBER

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    :happy:bbbGo CUNNINGHAM!!!:bbb:happy You are a people champion, great guy and you got Jesus on your side:good
     
  12. Stinky gloves

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    You didn't judge all of this from the Bell fight?
     
  13. emanuel_augustus

    emanuel_augustus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've seen the Briggs fights, Bell, and Gomez.
     
  14. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Adamek has Jesus on his side, too. Something is gonna have to give. I don't think Jesus will have anything to do with the winner. He won't play favorites in this one.

    This fight will be decided with fists & whoever shows the most smarts in the ring.
     
  15. Boxing Fanatic

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    Adamek is so underrated. Adamek split decision.:-(