PBF/ODLH/PAQ/COTTO/MARG Situation Explained.. Haters & Lovers Step Into My Office

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  1. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ok.... this situation starts around the time of Floyds retirement after ricky hatton. Floyd Mayweather was supposed to fight Oscar De La Hoya but i think a combination of floyd not being entertained by the idea of the fight and just needing some time away from the sport of boxing forced floyd to temporarily retire from the sport and take some time off and enjoy himself...

    While this is going on Oscar is forced to make a decision on who to fight...Oscar is no dummy and we all know that he wants to make the most money that he possibly can while making an event so oscar made the decision to allegedly take on the winner of cotto vs margarito when in reality he said that to be diplomatic and he really wanted to face cotto... Cotto vs oscar would present the oprotunity for oscar to truly cash in and ride out into the sunset against a true stallion... Cotto has already established himself as a mini star in superb performances against Zab Judah & Shane Mosley (both infront of enormous crowds and pro cotto crowds) both at madison square garden and both fight of the year contendors.... Oscar wanted that peurto rico vs mexico rivalry fight and he wanted cotto's ass on that dec 9th date...

    So while oscar was waiting for his opprotunity to take a bite out of Cotto the tijuana tornado handled his business with cotto and completely took him out of the picture in emphatic fashion.... by doing this not only did he ruin the chances of cotto facing oscar ( which was out of the window as soon as cotto took a knee) but he put oscar in the unfortunate position of having to look else where for a opponent.. oscar would have fought hatton or paqman before fighting margarito.. margarito had yet to establish any fan base outside of hard core boxing and thats something oscar wanted to avoid so instead of taking the cotto - margarito winner (supposed to be cotto) oscar chose paqiou by default just because he was the #1 p4p fighter and was hotter (coming off wins) than hatton

    meanwhile somewhere in michigan

    Floyd mayweather is making it rain in his garage sitting back hoping cotto would beat oscar & margarito as well.... this fight would be basically the final stamp on floyd career to cement him into boxing lure... this is a fight floyd really was hoping would come off because it would be the nemesis every all time great needs and by the time cotto beat margarito & oscar de la hoya he would totally be a household name.... Margarito still has atleast 2-4 fights before he becomes a super star fighter because his only major fight was against miguel cotto.... every other fight prior to that was for the hardcore boxing audience... so when margarito beat cotto not only did that ruin oscars $$ but it also screwed up floyds as well.....

    so now that paqman got his shot at oscar and prove he could handle himself at the weight class floyd does the same thing that oscar does... takes the p4p#1 fighter and the hottest boxer in the game... by fighting margarito it wouldnt make any sense because margarito hasnt established himself as large as paqman has or cotto was on his way to doing

    I believe that if floyd & paqman face off and floyd doesnt completely retire and margarito somehow fights 2-3 times between now and a little bit after floyd and paq man face off.... that floyd vs margarito could come off...

    because margarito has a fight against shane & cotto already planned.. both fights are high profile fights and will boost margarito's name into the sports world as a legitmant talent, exciting watchable fighter and a threat to floyd...

    if margarito fights shane & wins, then cotto & wins, then another high profile boxer & wins (id say williams but at this point he isnt high profile enough either but maybe in 6-8 months he will be) there is a verrrry high chance that margarito will finally get his chance with floyd mayweather but margarito has to focus on handling his business....


    so at the end of the day

    floyd didnt retire beause he was afraid of cotto or margarito
    oscar never lied
    Paq man deserves whats coming to him
    cotto would have got oscar & floyd if he beat margarito
    and margarito is on his way to a major fight after cotto II & shane
     
  2. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Don't get it twisted, Oscar would never fight Margarito because it would look like a mini wagon crashed front on against an express train.
     
  3. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Quintana W12 Williams
     
  4. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    why would oscar fight margarito

    when fighting paqiou/hatton are less riskier and make the same amount of money and at the end of the day would do about the same for the resume (maybe not hatton)

    paqiou will be remembered as the p4p#1
    margarito is remembered for what?
     
  5. EL-MATADOR

    EL-MATADOR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  6. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    So anything less than p4p no 1 is a bad fight?:-(
     
  7. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i know your only trying to mess with me and be silly but....

    cotto = reliable big name fighter, p4p #3, puero rican, Big Money @ msg
    paqiou = big money match, reliable big name fighter, p4p #1
    hatton = big money fight, reliable big name fighter in the uk
    margarito = not big name fighter, not known for being big money...

    see where this is going?
     
  8. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Get out of here,Margarito is as a big fight as Cotto or most of the WWs.He is as big name fighter as most of the others.Your bias is getting in your way like always but I kinda find your threads funny and enjoyable altough you are a cool poster.And yes...most time I'm just messing with ya to **** you off.:yep......and tell Paul Quintana is at 154 also......III:hey
     
  9. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    this thread is going no where fast...
     
  10. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I agree with some of what you say.
     
  11. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    margarito is as big as cotto is now... not when oscar was trying to plan a fight for a dec9th date.. and i have no bias... my only bias is common sense
    i wasnt trying to get a lot of replies... just a quick something for people who think any ducking was going on
     
  12. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    For fans like us Margarito was a big name for a while now.But he is the type...big risk/low reward so some people don't fight him.
     
  13. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    these ***s isntead of wanting to see the best fights are worried about the money Floyd gets.
     
  14. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cotto vs floyd would have been the best fight....

    regardless of what "WE" want ......

    its not going to happen... there going to make the fights that make the most money and im explaining to you what fights make the most money
     
  15. Gandul

    Gandul Well-Known Member Full Member

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    walk, i think that you are a good story teller and i agree with almost everything you say... I wish that for a second, cotto would've get by margo and we would get a real show down between odlh and floyd, so in a sence, we can blame cotto for not come in as prepared as he should to fight margo.

    I honestly don't think that margo will ever fight floyd. To floyd a fight against margo is high risk / low reward. Also, you talk as if margo has already beaten cotto again and ssm. Let me tell you this, i wouldn't just make that a given. Ssm is not going down easily and although i don't agree with the bobf arum as to make cotto fight now the guy from the uk to then fight a beast like margo. For some reason i feel as if it would be the same decision they made this year when they had cotto fighting c class gomez and margo fight cintron... Margo had a much better preparation fight against cintron than cotto vs gomez. I am counting/hoping that cotto comes with a great stamina and condition. If he get durable he can take margo and win.