***Floyd Mayweather Jr. VS Antonio Margarito @ 147lbs***

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  1. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Try again? Margo hasn't constantly overextended on his punches. When hes throwing a bunch of punches he's hitting the person or he's hitting their arms most of the time.

    Now, what I said was, Mayweather would need to make him constantly over extend on his punches. Which would tire Margo out if he kept doing that. That would either slow Margo down from getting tired of doing it, or he would stop doing it to pick his shots better, slowing output.
     
  2. mexican legend

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    Castillo pressured Mayweather and look what happened. He gave him the fight of his life. Margarito getting tired? When was Margarito ever "tired"? Bottom line Mayweather doesnt do well against pressure fighters(Castillo) and Margarito is a bigger version of Castillo who hits harder and has a better output with incredible stamina. I see Mayweather getting ko'd with accumulation just like Cotto. :smoke
     
  3. eze

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    Mayweather was injured in the first fight against Castillo.

    He also was moving up in weight and was fighting against Castillo who had an 8 or 9lb advantage. They rematched and look what happened.

    The fact you base off of a fight that nearly 6 years ago is stupid. Why dont you mention the other pressure fighters he's faced in that time? Oh and why dont you mention the rematch that happened?

    You keep claiming Margo has great stamina, no **** he does, you keep overlooking what I am saying. Mayweather would need to make Margo over extend on his punches, do you know what that means?

    If not heres what it means overextend - To expand or disperse beyond a safe or reasonable limit.

    So if Mayweather makes Margo consistently over extend on his punches, Margo will be using A LOT more energy than he normally does by just throwing punches and hitting arms. Margo who swings wide would be needing to keep himself balanced using a lot more energy to do so. If Mayweather does this Margo will slow on his output.
     
  4. tysonlewisbook

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    Phloyd could simply not hold off Margarito, he has nothing to repel that beast. That mediocre jab and backpedaling punches will not discourage Margarito. He will keep coming and coming making it a brutal fight. Tiger Woods and Barkley would be jumping out of their chairs like Chevy Chase and Stallone at Holmes-Norton. Floyd has never faced the kind of relentless pressure Margarito would assault him with. IN all his fights he basically has controlled everything and picked his shots and pot shotted at his own pace. Margarito would change that dynamic completely. Mayweather would be in a whole new world, one where Ellerbe, Sr. Haymon could not help him or protect him. There is just no way Floyd wants to set foot in that world with Margarito. This is why you will never ever hear Floyd show serious genuine interest to fight Margarito. We know this fight will never ever happen. Because Margarito would win in spectacular fashion. And phloyd don't want to share that glory.
     
  5. mexican legend

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    Well doing that means Mayweather will use up his stamina as well since he has to duck a lot of shots that Margarito will throw. You think the fight will come down to stamina with May slipping shots and Margarito throwing and throwing?
     
  6. eze

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    It possibly could. Thats every argument I hear for Margo.

    Margo is just going to throw and throw and break Mayweather down.

    Well Margo can throw and throw but if he hits air over and over he will tire.

    Mayweather is use to slipping a lot of shots. Margo is not use to constantly over extend on his shots.

    There's a difference between throwing a lot of punches and hitting arms compared to throwing a lot of punches and over extending from hitting air.
     
  7. mexican legend

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    Heres the thing that gets me. No doubt Margarito has better stamina then Floyd and no doubt you use up energy slipping shots but Mayweather hasnt seen a big constant puncher like Margarito ever. May cant slip all those shots since Margarito throws a lot of them coming from weird ass angles. I can see him landing some weird shots that May doesnt see and hurting him.
     
  8. imp4pdabest

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    Man, thatsthe dumbest thing you've said this week. No way does Margo have better stamina than Floyd. Have you ever seen Margo wearing leather shorts in the gym or during championship fights, no? Have you ever seen him get tired in fights, yes!
     
  9. igotJUIC3

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    :nono im sorry thats not even close to true


    Anyways this fight i would love to see simply because i do believe Margo will be a definite challenge that is worthy and would hopefuly give Floyd the credit he deserves if he wins but for some reason i dont believe he will get the credit...he never does.

    Im not going to bullshyt and say i think the fight is close i dont....do i think margo could win of course everyone has a chance but for me i just think floyd just is to smart, skilled, and conditioned to lose to Margo.

    Now how i see it....For those of you thinking Margo will tire...NOPE..Floyds pace is actually suited for Margo and if Margo had any type of versatility in that ring this fight would be a lot closer but thats just it....Margo is a power pressure who will try his best to walk you down no matter what you throw....even if he knows he is losing on cards in his mind you will tire soon and he will then wear you out once he can start connecting those power pombs he will throw and usually it works but up against fighters who have good stamina and can box its not a good strategy. PW showed us that and cotto showed us you can outbox Margo fairly easily but you have to have something in the tank later. PW had something in the tank Cotto didnt both winning fight early when boxing one faded and loss and the other upheld and won...so the proof is there.

    Now as for Floyd...come on even the greatest of haters will tell you his stamina or conditioning is second to none so thats obsurd to say Margo is better.....i've seen neither fighter gased. So Floyd tiring is extremely not likely. Floyd is entirley to smart and well prepared for Margo to use that gameplan to just walk Floyd down.....:nono.....again as much as you hate Floyd you gotta give his ring smarts their due he is in a class of elites when it comes to smarts in the ring. Margo will pressure but Floyd will throw straights to the body and head but its not the punches which will be the problem its the hold that comes after the punch....watch when Floyd throws the straight to the head he will almost IMMEDIATELTY clinch nullifying any counter and frustrating any gameplan you may have. This forces a reset and now your back to chasing him again while he all the while is finding his rhthym with you. Then he will throw the straight to the body which is just a scoring punch nothing that hurts but usually he follows with the straight to the head right after that ...... look at his past fights......these moves are very effective.

    This fight will be very slow one because Margo is not high tempo and does not have fast enough feet to close quickly....we all know floyd is not and will not be forced into any fight but his.....(Floyd does a lot of strategic holding which keeps any fighter from fighting their fight).

    In the end i jus think Floyd is just leagues above Margo in terms of skill and far to smart to lose this fight to someone who has no speed and is not versatile......whose gameplan is to simply walk you down and pound you......Margo has no alternative he can't and will not box floyd......his punches are wide and slow which will cause him to get countered often and that slow stalking will cause him to get beat to the punch almost every time.

    A KO...nah not likely but this will be a clear mismatch when its all said and done. Floyd UD.

    Now i know this is onesided but its supposed to be as i know there are some of you who see this different which is good so if you have a good argument by all means im up for a debate im not saying Margo is trash no im not i just dont think he has the tools to beat the likes of Floyd.
     
  10. imp4pdabest

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    He can turn around a punch the turnbuckle
     
  11. BOONDOCK SAINT

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    NAH TOTALLY DISAGREE MAYWEATHER 119-109 LMAO :deal
     
  12. mexican legend

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    Bull****, Margarito has better stamina. He never gets tired and keeps on coming.
     
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  14. boxbox

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    ofcourse, if there was chance for him to beat PBF, it would be via KO. Outboxing PBF seem closer to impossible...PBF better stay off the ropes int his one. Keep it in the middle of the ring.
     
  15. imp4pdabest

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