Is Manny that Good or is Hoya that Shot?

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  1. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both
     
  2. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was DLH having to go down and drain and Pac being able to carry his speed and power.
    Those choices left no mutual ground. Too extreme to be picked.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Why isn't there an option for "A little from column A and a LOT from column B"?????

    Manny is quite good, but he isn't as good as Oscar is shot, so if forced to pick between the two I'm going with the latter.
     
  4. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Gotta say both.
     
  5. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I should have put that third option down but didn't think about it. It's been mentioned enough and is probably the true answer.:good
     
  6. TanstA

    TanstA Legendary Full Member

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    that about sums it up.
     
  7. retriever

    retriever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    65% Pac 35% Hoya
     
  8. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    It was a bit of both IMO.

    Manny fought brilliantly but DLH has never looked worse in his entire career, I dont know if it was the 147 thing or getting old over night.... to be honest, he was SO bad that it looked like both combined.
     
  9. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Seriously ? :huh

    Try 10% Pac... 90% Hoya
     
  10. agila2004a

    agila2004a Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree, Manny did what he was supposed to.. he trained hard and stuck to his game plan. However, DLH conditioning was suspect. He had ample time to train and scale down to 147 lbs. So, there's no excuse for this so called weight drain issue. The fact that Manny was even slightly heavier than him at fight night is unusual as he was expected to rehydrate at about 150 above. Did DLH underestimated Manny?
     
  11. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    Both. I never expected Oscar to be so immobile. He was achingly slow. And he has completely lost the ability to throw punches in any combo other than trying to flurry, and his reflexes are pretty much worn out also. And his legs were gone as well. In the Forbes fight he was bouncing on his toes, he had legs. This fight he was completely flat footed. He got old overnight, and I think a lot of it had to do with making weight. When he weighed in at 148, and here I was expecting him at like 157, close to 160, I had an "Oh ****" moment.

    I take nothing away from Manny though. He put on a legendary performance against Oscar.
     
  12. jim22uk

    jim22uk Active Member Full Member

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    of cause manny is that good has he not proven himself enough already he is now in his prime
     
  13. 46and0

    46and0 It's irrefutable. Full Member

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    Both. DLH was plodding forward like Frankenstein's monster.
     
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    the wolf is better than teletubbies :D
     
  15. dhenzrae

    dhenzrae A Proud Noypi Full Member

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    combination of both