Joe Calzaghe's comments on bunce's hour

Bottom line is - if Calzaghe considers his legacy as untouchable as he says it is, the doings of Froch really should not bother him in the slighest.

I think Joe feels stroppy because it took him so many years in his career to get the plaudits, and now Froch comes along and gets much love and a title belt in one fight.

But in that situation, Joe has only himself to blame...

 

Good post.

 

I think opportunity played a part of his resume.

Calzaghe was outside of the bubble when Collins, Watson, Benn and Eubank were rivals at the top of their game. As Calzaghe started to build a career after the Eubank fight, Toney, Jones, Hopkins etc weren't interested in some skinny, protected Brit with a crap title. He generated no interest for them so why fight him. The only time America heard about Calzaghe was when some fighter was a prospect coming to the UK looking for an easy win or an ex-champion thinking a belt was lying around waiting to be collected.

Warren didn't really do his job, Calzaghe should have travelled more and collectively he'd have a far better resume, perhaps even losses on his record but we'll never know now. Sure Jones would have beaten Calzaghe, sure Toney would have too but we can only speculate and argue. Undoubtedly Calzaghe in his prime would have given any of those fighters one hell of a run for their money and I too would have love to have seen some of those fights but his career is albeit over, his opportunities passed and his legacy is what it is.

Still one hell of an accomplishment though and if people want to use the word legend, it's hard not to understand their sentiment, particularly from a British perspective. Personally, legends stand the test of time and the names of those legends will be remembered by our grandchildren and their grandchildren. Somehow, I think Calz falls just a little short.

Close but no cigar.

 

There was no reason why he couldn't have got a ten rounder on a big card somewhere......

 

Apart from his reluctance to travel and Warrens reluctance to risk. :hey

 

I could go out now catch a plane to the states, drive an hire car to Ali's house and knock seven bags of **** out of him but it would add nothing to my legacy. Look at the guys who were great at the time Calzaghe fought them...**** all names come up. Good receord but not great...plus he talks about his 20 defences but it was with the WBO belt so it does not count, that belt is of less regard tan a Euro belt.

 

You wouldn't even have to take a risk - as long as he didn't have a mandatory he could have fought whoever he wanted.

A good idea would have been to have picked the Gatti/Miranda of the relevant period - decent enough, more famous for their name than their skills - and blast them out in a couple of rounds.

It would certainly make people sit up and take notice - a lot more than beating Rick Thornberry or Veit (again).

Hatton, Lewis, Benn and Eubank all fought abroad on undercards and benefitted from it - both in terms of experience and publicity.

 

You've got great perspective Wilson. Tell me, what do you make of Peter Buckley's legacy? :yep

 

I agree, there was more he and Warren could have done between them. Who knows, Calzaghe might have been a legend, he's certainly good enough, but he's let it slip.

 

He is a true legend but god damm he should have gone to 300 fights without getting stopped.

 

As far as I can see he has said nothing incorrect.

Although I havn't seen it yet.

 

I think Calzaghe is getting a bit too much stick. Froch has acted like a total sausage-wallet towards him for 4 years, and now everybody is getting wound up and are getting the usual digs about his C.V. in, all because Calzaghe has said a few words back.

If you can't take it, don't dish it out I say.

 

what?

how does winning a belt at 168 qualify you for a shot at the man in the weight class above?

there are more worthy contenders in joe's own division should he decide to continue.

 

Calzaghe should either retire of fight 1 of the young guns like Taylor, Pavlik or Froch. #5Million pounds to take on Carl Froch is good money. This can be his swan song. Froch can take a punch hits hard, decent speed and has confidence/attitude. This will be a genuine grudge match as they don't like each other. Joe should take this fight or retire. This is his Steve Collins moment. He should remember Collins chose to retire rather than fight him so Joe what are you going to do. Time to put up or shut up and ride into the sunset.

Not a fan of Joe's but have to respect his record. Yes a lot of uneven performances coupled with some excellent ones. I think he needs beat 1 of these young guys to settle his legacy. I thought he lost to Hopkins and was exposed but will excuse that performance.

 

Lacy? Kessler?

I thought he just won it. Exposed? Do you know what exposed means? Hopkins was exposed as a spoiler. He lost at his own game. He couldn't out-work Calz, he couldn't stop him, so he spoilt the fight and Calz then done the same back and nipped it.