Joe Calzaghe's comments on bunce's hour

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  1. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Calzaghe has a very unfortunate turn of phrase...he should keep his mouth shut and do his stuff in the ring, thats were real champions do their talking.
     
  2. Ed.

    Ed. Itchy Nuts Full Member

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    Where were you for the last 10 years? :yep
     
  3. Leif Erikson

    Leif Erikson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe is a great talent, one who I've always enjoyed watching and find myself supporting at fight time, but he'd do well to remember than he was essentially an unknown quantity on the world stage prior to the Lacy fight. For the vast majority of his career, his standout wins were against Mario Veit, a weight-drained short notice replacement iteration of Chris Eubank and a post-Malinga Robin Reid.

    The vast majority of his remaining opponents shouldn't have been within a thousand miles of a title shot. Nor should the 52 year old Roy Jones his last bout came against, for that matter.
     
  4. 46and0

    46and0 It's irrefutable. Full Member

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    Froch is just looking for a payday and a shortcut to the top. I'm actually sick of hearing about the guy. Great win on Saturday, and well done, but he doesn't merit a shot at Joe Calzaghe. Calzaghe (who will probably be retiring) is now a light-heavyweight. Froch stated he would only fight him at a catch weight of 172 max. Why should Calzaghe drop down to fight him? If Froch was really serious he would go up to 175lbs.

    Now the Taylor fight is being made Froch is saying "it's the fight I always wanted".

    No it's not Carl, you always wanted the Calzaghe fight, even as recently as last week!

    Still if his aim was getting his name out there on the back of Calzaghe's name, he has succeeded, though Joe's tirade has unwittingly helped matters.
     
  5. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    I really do have a problem with this statement, its the same old trite bollocks that is rolled out everytime by Calzaghe apologists (genuinely no offence intended). I know my question is fairly weatherbeaten, but no-one has ever been able to tell me to any level of satisfaction what Manfredo, Tocker P, Brewer et al had actually done to merit a shot at Calzaghe?
     
  6. Ed.

    Ed. Itchy Nuts Full Member

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    Plenty of champs take silly fights and Calzaghe has had his share of bums but right now Calzaghe holds all the cards, he has options and do you really consider Froch to come before Dawson, Johnson, Kessler, Hopkins, even Adamek?
     
  7. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Indeed

    While Froch may not be 'more deserving' than certain others, he is still 'worthy' of a shot, he's the WBC champion for god's sake

    It's hardly like Joe has never fought anyone worse is it
     
  8. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joe doesn't want Hopkins so that's a non-starter

    I assume you are joking with Johnson

    Kessler / Adamek - do the FANS want them fights? Hard to believe they want them more than Froch-Calzaghe

    Dawson is about the only one left. I personally am not on his bandwagon at all. It might do good business in the States though.

    Anyway it's not about Froch being ahead of them in the queue. It's about Frich's right to even be in the queue. Some people would have you believe he doesn't have that right, he clearly does
     
  9. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    You are quite right, but generally these type of fights are gimmes in between challenges at the higher level...Calzaghe made a career on the back of these fighters for years and we never heard either Calzaghe or Calzaghes fans mention "merit" or his other favourite "deserve". Whether Calzaghe likes it or not Carl Froch is WBC SMW champion and as such does "merit" consideration, and probably "deserves" a shot if he is prepared to step up.

    I have an awful feeling that if Calzaghe does fight again it will be a rematch at Cardiff against RJJ, that would be a disgrace on all sorts of levels.
     
  10. Ed.

    Ed. Itchy Nuts Full Member

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    Of course he does but if Calzaghe chooses not to fight him, can he be blamed? Should he fight Froch or be called a bum forever?

    Personally, I think Calzaghe has done enough and should retire. He'd beat Froch on points anyway. I'd watch the fight but it's going to be fairly predictable.
     
  11. dwilson

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    Hopkins was robbed.
     
  12. Ed.

    Ed. Itchy Nuts Full Member

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    Hopkins brought nothing to the fight. Sure it was close but there was no decisive winner. Doesn't matter what way the fight went, they both should be ashamed, although I do blame Hopkins more than Calzaghe for spoiling.

    Hopkins was not robbed at all. Robbed would indicate he won the fight by 4 clear rounds and if you think that I'd watch the fight again but this time leave the wine gums alone.
     
  13. SqueezyFlump

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  14. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This looks like it's going to Pavlik all over again.

    Froch should fight Joe, Joe should fight Froch.

    Oops Froch has just been brutalised Joe was correct all along.
     
  15. toom

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    Carl Froch is articulate, intelligent and likeable. Joe in comparison is rude, thick and ungracious, with a chip on his shoulder. He probably realises that he's past his best, and is jealous of a younger guy in his prime.

    When did Calzaghe last stop an opponent? He cannot punch properly and his punch resistance is starting to go.