The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    the thing is he didnt have a hard time with de la hoya.... contrary to how that fight was judged and level minded person can watch that fight and with no bias and clearly state that floyd won by 4 rounds easily....
    and you act like paq's power is up there with cotto or margarito or something floyd has fought much stronger fighters & much faster fighters and didnt have trouble over the corse of the entire fight

    any one stands a chance obviously because its a sport anything can happen... but lets be real for a second.... like i said already floyd has faced faster fighters and was able to neutralize their speed... hes taken punches from stronger fighters and wasnt shook... floyd has been staggered twice... against chop chop & aginst zab.... i dont know about chop chop but zab is a billion times faster & stronger than manny and floyd neutralized that

    did floyd lay pipe to your sister... i dont understand the hatred....

    for the 3rd time hes fought faster & stronger fighters and even more dangerous fighters..... paqman isnt even a ko artist so all hand speed **** is irrelevant because its not very likely that he puts floyd out on one punch and theres no way in hell he can outbox floyd im sorry to say..

    theres only 2 ways manny can win.... ko (which is unlikely because of the size difference) or decision (which is unlikely because floyd is a better boxer) manny is too small to bully floyd, floyds to tricky to be out timed (like manny did with oscar), the speed thing is nonsense because against floyd it will be negated by floyd fighting styel

    thats why im asking for commentary.... i didnt call anyone stupid for having an opinion.. im asking yall for commentary and explanation because i just cant see it ... but obviously more crazier things have happend

    thats what im thinking... manny isnt a better boxer than floyd, hes wont administer some kind of pressure floyd has every witnessed before, hes not a slickster.. hes just got the heart of a champ and thats whats gotten him threw all his bouts ... i just dont understadn what all the hype is about...

    yeah thats what im thinking

    lets re-evaluate this..
    judge: floyd
    defense: floyd by light years
    height: floyd
    reach: floyd 72 manny 67
    speed: manny can keep this.. dont really matter
    power: manny can keep it because if they fought it wouldnt matter
    stamina: FLOYD. be serious with yourself

    the rest im not even getting into...this is insane


    exactly.. nobody can give an honest break down using both fighters strengths and weakness to make an honest assessment of why floyd would lose..... besides manny is fast and manny is strong and manny has heart... what the hell does all that mean in relation to floyds weaknesses?



    everyone has a chance its boxing....





    to conclude the last couple of quotes i think the manny paq man fanaticism is getting out of hand... i love manny because he is a humble guy and stays connected with his roots which i think is very important in life but there isnt one person in this forum that can give an honest break down between the two fighters that explains why manny paqs strengths have what it takes to break aparts floyds weaknesses.. manny paq is not strong enough to hurt floyd, his speed wont matter because if he tries to use his speed to beat floyd he will get outboxed for 12 rounds, he is to little to pressure floyd, and he is succeptable to being out boxed... which is why i am completely baffled as to why so many people think manny has a great shot at beating floyd.... not just that but some people have been as brave to say they would make floyd the underdog which is just crazy.. yeah manny looked good against a p.o.s oscar.. people also have this speed thing mis contrued.... manny didnt outspeed oscar.. manny out-timed oscar many figured out oscars rhythym extremely early and from that point on knew how to beat oscar to the punch ... it had nothing to do with speed because even a slow person could out time someone.. am i saying manny is slow? hell no because thats not the case..but people are getting out of hand talking about manny's speed like he has the fastest hands of all time.... manny will not bring anything to the table that floyd mayweather jr has not seen as far as im concerned
     
  2. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    this is the question that needs to be answered: can someone (that is a user on esb)
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    .... floyd has been toe to toe with people that fit that description time and time again....
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    can someone please help me understand this?
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    .... that i understand... but what the hell is manny paq going to do to floyd that floyd hasnt dealt with already?
     
  3. treva1977

    treva1977 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i think he stands a chance but a slim one.
    pbf would probably batter him.
     
  4. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    man...Why answer if its so UNLIKELY???

    Game plan? Same game plan as usual for Pacquiao.
     
  5. DobyZhee

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    Does he have a chance? of course he has a chance. He had no chance against ODLH by experts and look what happened. Do NOT EVER underestimate Manny Pac.
     
  6. walk with me

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    which is ?

    yeah but that was simply based on size.... everyone just figured oscar would beat him on paq because paq was so much bigger..... its not like oscar has superior skills or anything
     
  7. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes. He was fantastic against DLH but it's really hard to guage how shot Oscar was. He should fight Hatton before Mayweather. Once that occurs, we will really know where Manny stands. If he puts a beating on Hatton and shows huge speed advantage, then I think Pac. will beat FM.
     
  8. walk with me

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    Im Begging someone to make a gameplan
     
  9. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    well by your reasoning, Mayweather should just stay retired because its a foregone conclusion that he will win easily.
     
  10. walk with me

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    no i mean why not make a p4p#1 vs a p4p#1 that will definitely sell atleast 1 million? financially it makes a lot of sense... i keep seeing people saying that paq has a great chance or even more of a chance than mayweather has you know what im saying? i just cant understand how paqman is going to pull it off... someone else made the comparison of floyd vs zab except zab is way stronger & faster, equal to size with floyd and floyd like he always does coasted for the first 3-4 rounds then dominated .... what would be different?

    yo how old are you?
     
  11. The Prophet

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    If Zab Judah was able to land with his straight lefts up the middle to his head and body, tee off with combos to the body, and actually knock Mayweather down with a right when he caught him reaching, what makes you think Manny couldn't do that as well? The main difference being, Manny gets stronger as the fight goes on while Zab fades. Manny's right hand has also become insane and I think he would control the fight with it.
     
  12. walk with me

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    why wouldnt floyd come out? p4p #1 vs p4p#1 ... only time will tell

    so what your saying is that manny paqiou is fast & strong enough that he will sit in the center of the ring and outbox floyd mayweather to decision?
    is that the game plan your emplying manny paqiou will use to beat floyd?


    and things like hunger and desire are unmeasureable... unless you personally know floyd mayweather and manny paqiou ... those arent things you can measure
     
  13. walk with me

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    so manny ud's floyd?
     
  14. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    It's pretty much cherrypicking if he only fights Pacquiao and then retires.
    Pacquiao has good chances to win but the fight shouldn't be at 147 really.
     
  15. walk with me

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    give me a % of manny's chances vs floyd?
     
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