The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. ecdrm15

    ecdrm15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac's skills are improving every fight. His movement and defence can get better. With those acompanied with his speed and punch volume...it would be interesing to see Floyds game plan.

    Pac vs Hatton would be a much more exciting fight though.
     
  2. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    that really doesnt answer anything....

    do you think floyd will sit there to be punched like oscar?
    do you think floyd will not be able to finish what jmm did at a bigger size?
    do you think floyd will tire?
    do you think floyd will be incapable defensively?

    we could do this forever...... create a game plan

    hattons gameplan: cut off the ring and go to floyd's body
    oscars gameplan: cut off the ring and throw punches in bunches on the ropes
    zabs gameplan: outbox floyd in the center and outtime him
    paq's game plan ? -_____________________
     
  3. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    Again, i'm asking again: WHat do you want?
    We told you what we think. You're not satisfied for one reason: Because you don't believe Pac can win. It is ok! But we can't do nothing more.
     
  4. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    you asked for a percentage chance and i gave you one. now you say im wrong because i dont take styles into account which is a wrong assumption. are you interested in others opinions or just defending floyd and being his microphone.
     
  5. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    It would depend greatly on what weight and IF Floyd had a tune up or not. And lets cut this **** that that many say being Floyd is untouchable. He WILL get hit by Pac if they fight. Pac is fast enough and explosive enough where he will give May a tough fight. And his defense has greatly improved. Floyd is at his best when he's in his cormfort zone. Pac's arregssion and speed WILL not allow Floyd top get comfortable just anytime he wants. Hell, Hatton bothered May for 6 rounds and he's not nearly as efectively aggressive or fast as Pac.

    And Floyd is inactive. Pac isn't and is on stride right now. I would favor Mayweather, but no ****in way would it be easy to win. Too many posters (read: Floyd fanboys) act as if Floyd is unbeatable.
     
  6. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    you can look up my quote on this (which i dont feel like doign) when i first saw mararito fight I thought he was a cool exciting fighter who eventually would go on to fight paul williams and it be an exciting matchup... then after the pw fight i hated margartio because he showed poor sportsmanship when paul went up to him and shake his hand and he declined... then after that when he fougt golden johnson he got back on my good side beacuse he showed his resilence which is something i respect in someone.. he didnt let the paul williams Loss derail him he just came back harder.... from now till then my opinion hasnt changed about him... hes a great fighter .. hes not my favorite but i dont dislike him... my favorites is still paul williams, pavlik, juan diaz & cotto is on the B list of my favorites

    and margaritos chances against williams... i dont know the first one was paul williams won 55% of the fight ... barely edged it so who's to say that cant happen again... who's to say margarito cant pull it out.. theres really no way to tell till they fight


    im saying though.... you think david diaz & oscar de la hoya are great barometers of his defense? or his speed to be honest on dec 9th oscar wasnt even a C class fighter im not trying to take away from paq's accomplishments but from start to finish something was wrong with oscar... maybe he's washedup but from the first round on oscar looked horendous... and david diaz isnt even a real threat he was just a test to see how paq would handle the weight..... i mean lets be serious... were talking about floyd here i understand that some of you may feel that he has a padded record and a bunch of other stuff but floyd is in another universe compared to oscar & david diaz and to judge what paq would to do floyd based of his performances against david diaz & oscar is crazy
     
  7. DobyZhee

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    if he can't knockout pac, its not worth coming out of retirement. "Hey, I UD'd the smaller guy" Anything less would be a disaster in Floyd's legacy.
     
  8. The Prophet

    The Prophet Active Member Full Member

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    Everyone here is answering you, you dumb****. You just keep changing the questions.

    They will fight in the center of the ring circling each other, Floyd circling away from Manny's powerful left. Manny's footwork and head movement will make Floyd look like a statue in comparison. Floyd will wait for Pacman to overcommit and counter, which won't happen, because Pac will not overcommit. Pacquiao will win by controlling the action with his right hand for the majority of the time and shooting in the occassional straight lefts upstairs and downstairs and hooks to the body. Floyd will counter, like he always does, but will have trouble trouble timing him, and Manny will always comeback with something immediately and not let Floyd get the last word. That's just the kind of fighter he is. I see Manny winning by simply throwing more punches and being more active than Floyd, the counter-puncher. Floyd will land his share of shots, but not as many as Manny, and nothing substantial enough to knock him out. Then he will decry the decision as a personal vendetta against him for him being black and against all black men and as an HBO conspiracy. 'Nuff said?
     
  9. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i want a game plan... maybe you already wrote one and i skipped over it ... im saying though

    construct a game plan for manny paq to beat floyd and a game plan being what parts of the ring paq will use to his advantage.... most people are talking about pacs strengths .. his speed and quickness.. those are attributes.. what i want to hear is how he will use those attributes...

    example:
    ricky hattons game plan to defeat floyd mayweather would be to stalk him aroudn the ring and pressure him at close range and take away room so floyd doesnt have space to operate and bang floyd up when there is very little space hoping for floyd to succumb to the pressure...hatton will stay away from the center of the ring because that will gives floyd and opprotunity to box which is bad news for hatton

    what most people have been saying:
    manny paq is too stong & fast for floyd and floyd will not be able to deal with manny his defense and head movement has gotten better over the past couple fights and floyd wont be able to put up with it...

    you see the difference? most people are talking about manny's attributes... i know his attributes.... what i want to hear is a game plan

    nah i want to know opinions and I still want a gameplan from aaannnyyybody

    i personally see floyd winning the fight by 4 rounds
     
  10. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    chill out with the name calling for real tough guy...

    but go threw the first 7 pages and you will see you are the first person to construct a fluid game plan

    congrats
     
  11. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course Pac stands a good chance with Floyd and any one up to 147. Pac is a multidimensional fighter now with speed, power, agility, defense and Floyd will have his hands full with him.
     
  12. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    Man..look what i said before.

    Game plan? Same as usual for Pacquiao. Keep hitting the guy with fast sharp punches from every angle. Get moving the head. Keep moving the feet (in and out). ANd Always HIT BACK
    This is mostly was Pacquiao has always done (but he's doing it better everytime).

    Third time i write this now...
    Is it in the center?& Is it in the corner? Is it on the ropes? I'll tell you where it is: WHere Mayweather is.

    Now, you may not like the plan but at least stop saying i did'nt gave one to you.
     
  13. ko factor

    ko factor Active Member Full Member

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    Before the Hoya fight there is no way Pac would beat Mayweather. But now I will give him 50/50 chance to beat Floyd at 140.

    The ff. reasons:

    1. That southpaw stance with speed & power.

    2. Pac doesn't fade in the late rounds, plus he is more of a boxer/puncher now.

    3. Pac throws volume punches with the same intensity for twelve rounds.

    4. It looks like he is comfortable with the added weight.

    5. Pac has a heart of a warrior, he never gives up.

    6. He carries the whole country on his back.

    The aforementioned intangibles favors him over Floyd however, we will find out once he faces Floyd comes fight time.
     
  14. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    fair enough... you and prophecy still the only ones who done it... after all the time i was asking
     
  15. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    he stands no chance if floyd is retired....
    so its pointless to keep speculating on it....
     
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