~ Campillo beats Shumenov in exciting fight! - rematch in January, Las Vegas? ~

Odo · Dec 2, 2008

Axe said:

The fact that a mummified Montell Griffin went 12 rounds with an amateur star in his physical prime, speaks volumes as to how skilled Griffin was in his prime, and how babdly he would have boxed Beibut's ears off had this taken place with both fighters at their peak...IMO.
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You are too critical on him,axe! I am positive that you cant name that many fighters at his weight division who have collect so many decent skalps in so short a pro career.
Griffin may be past his prime and over the hill.Nevertheless,he isnt easy prey for an opponent with just 5 pro fights irrespective of his amateur credentials.

FromWithin · Dec 8, 2008

He's fighting Kelvin Davis 24 (17) - 9 (5) - 2 this saturday in washington. The guy lost by TKO 3 of his last 5 defeats who are also his last 5 fights. So the pick is Shumenov by TKO I guess. Is there any footage of Shumenov vs Griffin?

BigBone · Dec 14, 2008

I don't see the result on boxrec.com. Info anyone?

catasyou · Dec 14, 2008

Haven't heard anything so far.......Is the result a top secret or something?What the hell?

konaman · Dec 14, 2008

Boxrec had him slated to fight Mendoza? This is the same Mendoza that arguably beat Jeff Lacy. Though the result isn't up, not sure what is going on there, but if this fight occurred i would definitely like to know the result, Mendoza isn't the sort of fighter a rookie should be getting in the ring with.

TehRileh · Dec 14, 2008

konaman said: ↑

Boxrec had him slated to fight Mendoza? This is the same Mendoza that arguably beat Jeff Lacy. Though the result isn't up, not sure what is going on there, but if this fight occurred i would definitely like to know the result, Mendoza isn't the sort of fighter a rookie should be getting in the ring with.
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This guy aint a rookie, not when you shut out Montell Griffin in your 6th fight. Hes looks very good, heard big things about this fella. Guess he doesnt like fighting bums to pad his record thats all.

konaman · Dec 14, 2008

TehRileh said: ↑

This guy aint a rookie, not when you shut out Montell Griffin in your 6th fight. Hes looks very good, heard big things about this fella. Guess he doesnt like fighting bums to pad his record thats all.
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He might be very good but he isn't experienced at the pro level, a convincing win over Mendoza at this early stage would be huge.

konaman · Dec 14, 2008

Beibut Shumenov beat Mendoza along the lines of 8 rounds to 2 according to some heresay at the scene of boxing.

The fight was reasonably entertaining. It was a pretty small crowd, largely due to a lack of advertising. The majority of the crowd were Russians/former SSR. In fact the only reason I knew about the card was because my girlfriend is Russian (from Uzbek) and we shop at some Russian shops one of which had a fight poster for the event. Throughout the main event the Russians were shouting things, which I had translated to me as being "Kill him" "**** him up" "Make him cry" and the like.

Shumenov looked like, if I dare say it, a fairly "typical" central asian fighter. Lead hand hanging very low, good power, good workrate, descent accuracy, bad defence, and mostly non-existant inside boxing ability.

He did well when he was on the outside, landing some hard shots, and even caught Mendoza with some nice uppercuts, especially early on. As the fight progressed, Shumenov did visibly tire, but at no point did he appear in any danger of gassing, his workrate dropped a bit, and instead of trying to put together combinations he went more into a punch-clinch mode.

Mendoza for his part didn't really do ****, he landed a few descent punches, but there was only really one or two rounds that you could say he won cleanly. He did press the action in the later rounds though, coming forward, and landed one very good punch I think in the 7th that may have rocked Shumenov.

The fighters did clash heads quite a bit, especially in the later part of the fight as they began to fall into each other with increasing frequency. As a result there was lots of mid-round 'hand-shaking', and probably the most odd thing of this fight, was that they actually did alot of mid-round HUGGING, not clinch-hugging, but apologetic-hugging after a clash of heads. It was straight up weird at some point and you could tell the ref was equally disturbed as the audience, and he didn't really know how to deal with the excessive pseudo-homosexual behavior of the fighters! Like right after a ref break, instead of going at each other, the fighters held out there hands, then slowly embraced each other chest to chest for a period of 3 to 5 seconds, and this occured at least a half-dozen times in the fight. WTF?!?

The scorecards if I remember correctly were all in the 8-2 round range which was pretty much spot on. Mendoza did more than just try to survive, but not ALOT more... He did press the action, particularly in the mid-late rounds, but not very effectively. For what it's worth, both fighters let it hang pretty good in the 10th, and there were some nice exchanges, with Shumenov in my opinion getting the slightly better of them.

Overall I'd have trouble seeing Shumenov ever holding onto a world title. He may crack top 10 though and even get a title shot. His defence and his lack of infighting ability are really going to hurt him against top guys. He reminds me of Raimkulov, only with a bit lower workrate. If he can develop more inside boxing, and even vary the power on his shots (he tends to put a bit too much into shots that seem hopeless) he could get a bit further. He certainly has a good fighting spirit, and cries a loud "UD!" with every power shot. I'd gladly watch him fight again.
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Boom_Boom · Dec 14, 2008

that sounds about right, Shumenov is all offense as Golovkin is to defense

I hope he improves though he has talent for sure

catasyou · Dec 14, 2008

He is building a hell of a record.

Clearly Cool · Dec 14, 2008

That bit about mid fight hugging made me laugh.

Sounds odd....a 5 second embrace in the middle of a fight???? WTF is that about.

konaman · Dec 14, 2008

Clearly Cool said: ↑

That bit about mid fight hugging made me laugh.

Sounds odd....a 5 second embrace in the middle of a fight???? WTF is that about.
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They probably just gave each other a pat on the back whilst breaking a clinch after an accidental foul between them. Far from normal, but the quoted guy could just be being cynical.

BigBone · Dec 14, 2008

Boom_Boom said: ↑

that sounds about right, Shumenov is all offense as Golovkin is to defense

I hope he improves though he has talent for sure
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Do you know who's training Shumenov?

FromWithin · Dec 14, 2008

BigBone said: ↑

Do you know who's training Shumenov?
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Beibut Shumenov - I am training in Las Vegas, and I am working with Steve Rowlands.

CLUBBER · Dec 14, 2008

Hes going against Epifanio Mendoza W28(ko24)L6(ko2)D1...another good opponent the guy fought against Lacy in a war,got owned against Dawson but koed Rubin Williams in 1 and Tokunbo Olajide in 1 also who were good prospects when Mendoza meet them...so it will be a good test to see how Beibut chin will hold on...

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