How good are your reflexes or reaction times in Milliseconds?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by ShadowWorks, Dec 13, 2008.


  1. ShadowWorks

    ShadowWorks Active Member Full Member

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    Do you boxers train your reflexes? if so how? sound or visual reactions? I normally throw a dodecahedron ball at the wall at a medium pace and try and catch it on the rebound for 20 minutes, then I up the speed and just try and touch it, I also try and rally a tennis ball against the wall which is not easy but its for accuracy only. What type of methods are boxers using today?
     
  2. amy

    amy If you know what I mean Full Member

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    No clue. I just try to hit people before they hit me.
     
  3. ShadowWorks

    ShadowWorks Active Member Full Member

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    Of course but the reaction or reflex can be trained and made faster, the average human is around 0.22 to 0.25 seconds, the startle reflex can help you get this time down to 1.8 but I know TT guys and sprinters who have reaction times in the shallow 0.120 to 0.150 range consistently, not on the odd occasion. My average reaction time can vary depending on how well and organic I eat, if I eat crap or take pain meds it slows down by an average of 0.100 Ms When the difference in boxing terms is landing first or avoiding a big punch I think its vital to have the reactions that can protect you, every action comes from the brain and it has been proven it can be trained to operate faster, just being about to do simple arithmetic in your head helps speed up your startle reflex, there is a counter argument that says it's the unconsciousness part of the mind that operate faster, so being able to turn off the self and ego is a way to get ultra fast animal reflexes, it is interesting. Tell you what, play an online reaction game and test you reflexes? If you have an LCD screen subtract 0.005 seconds and certain mouses are slolwer than others by a few thousands of second, but give it a go. http://www.fetchfido.co.uk/games/reaction/reaction_test.htm
     
  4. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The methods you posted are useless, unless you play tennis of course.
     
  5. ShadowWorks

    ShadowWorks Active Member Full Member

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    I take it you have never used a dodecahedron ball, the bugger can come towards your face from any angle, you can buy any old bouncy ball and carve it into any odd shape you wish to get hand eye coordination and reflexes, try it and then tell me its useless, because I can assure you it's not.

    Post your reaction times at least from the Red Dot Yellow Dot game so we can see which of you guys has the best reflexes.
     
  6. Youngblood

    Youngblood Active Member Full Member

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    ftw!

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  7. ShadowWorks

    ShadowWorks Active Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  8. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Nice that you can throw a ball really fast, but can you still react that fast after an intense workout, 2 rounds of sparring and taking some punches from your sparring partner ?
     
  9. Griip

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    0.229 on my first real try. Scored a 0.19 :)
     
  10. RDJ

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    The mind works in patterns, practicing things with a ball will only make you faster at things that have a single, predetermined response. And only at that particular response. What makes you react faster in boxing is sparring, because your mind will form patterns and pre-programmed responses to go along with it. What also helps is watching fights, your mind will attempt to copy it. We're copycats by nature.

    You can actually get better at something by thinking about it a lot.
     
  11. dwilson

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    Kinda like a prime George Bush Jr.
     
  12. ShadowWorks

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    You bring up some good points about patterns, I think you could be talking about muscle memory, gymnast and break dancers need to get the body into certain position and train the body as a whole at getting used to being in certain position and having all the muscles firing in a certain sequence like a domino effect to be able to get into transitions and carry momentum or power through the movement. Would you agree that copy catting is just Memes? I think it's best to find out what you mechanics can do on a very basic level and then work from there. I am tending to believe that most quick witted boxers tend to have fast reflex to match their physical abilities, Whitaker, Nas, Ali and RJJ all had good quips and witt, Ray Lenord as well, verbally these guys can talk the ears off an elephant, it's only a theory but I wonder if there is some correlation?
     
  13. ShadowWorks

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    Is that an average or best score? 1.9 as an average is pretty good, they theory is nobody should be able to react below 0.100 seconds, I agree in part with this, I'm just trying to find out if there is anybody who can get an average from 5 tries of 0.1 or less and what they are thinking about when they do this, or lack of thought what ever would be the case. You will find that your reactions times will slow down towards the end of the day.
     
  14. RDJ

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    There is a correlation because a smart man will constantly think about it, and thereby form patterns in his brain. A dumb guy will just wail at the bag for a while and think it's all about strength. Some people don't see the difference between a RJJ / Floyd style left hook and a Tyson one. I can't really explain it either, but I can feel it and see it quite clearly. I've watched the RJJ/Floyd one so many times that my brains started copying it.

    Muscle memory is part of those patterns, individual muscles will "remember" what to do and the brain will include them in the pattern. I have a very good article on it, but it's in Dutch and printed on dead trees. I'll see if I can translate some bits of it later.
     
  15. RDJ

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    Pure reaction time is only important for single, predetermined responses. For example a sprinter who reacts to a starting gun, it requires no thought at all. For a boxer this is of less importance, what matters for us is applying the right pattern as quick as possible.

    It works well indeed, because it forms and perfects the same brain patterns.

    Btw. I was incomplete when I said sparring improves it, defense + countering drills are also excellent.