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Respected columnist Dan Rafael's thoughts on Calzaghe

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Mendoza said: ↑

Who says Dan Rafael is respected? The man is a media puppet. Rafael gets inside info to hype fights maybe a week before they sign, and pretty much caters to those giving him information. That is his career in a nut shell. I guess Calzaghe people didn't pay their dues with Rafael. Keep up the good work Danny boy. Mike Katz has lost his best stuff. Boxing needs a new player hater.

PS: Is it true, you can purchase a Rafael fat head for 50% off?
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Why did Kevin Iole criticise Calzaghe as well?

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Rafael is not alone. Quite a few journalists have lit into Calzaghe recently. Even Bunce said he has been ashamed of Calzaghe's choices and comments.

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san rafael said: ↑

Rafael is not alone. Quite a few journalists have lit into Calzaghe recently. Even Bunce said he has been ashamed of Calzaghe's choices and comments.
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Good point.

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on the article, rafael has a point.

but that fat **** has about as much credibility as some of the internet warriors we have over here.

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Its cool for him to give that statement to the BBC or to Sentana, but to the US, Calzaghe is nothing more than an average fighter ... the US crowd already has someone for him to face (Chad Dawson) ... with the recent loss to RJJ and the decline of the LHW division is in limbo, and the US crowd wants him to fight Chad Dawson.

He doesn't have the respect of the US fans ... he hasn't proven himself to us ... and we can easily find someone for him to fight ... and always find someone for him to fight.

He's not Floyd Mayweather, he can't do that ...

I agree with Dan Rafael ... we haven't seen enough of you to demand you ... retire and/or stay in the UK and fight. There are enough personalities in the US already w/o a Brit talking nonsense.

I don't know of any boxer out of the UK that has the respect of US fans ... and if he thinks he can make that quote and get away with it, he has another thing coming.

His ploy for getting a bigger purse isn't going to be a second thought of true American fans ... his PPV fight w/ Roy Jones flopped ... he's not going to do **** as a promoter ... and his 24/7 was by far the worst of all 4.

fitzgeraldz, Dec 16, 2008

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Carlos Primera said: ↑

but that fat **** has about as much credibility as some of the internet warriors we have over here.
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Elaborate on that if you would. I don't read Rafael very much.

san rafael, Dec 16, 2008

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It's true, if you take Oscar for example, he knows what it takes to promote fights and do well at the gate. It also helps to be popular here in the U.S.

Calzaghe-Jones had the potential to do well because casual fans are familiar with Jones and would've liked to see this fight. Joe didn't promote well and if he still had Warren on board, it would have certainly done better.

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Some of the criticism is indeed valid, and I'm disappointed that Joe said what he did. I'm not going to try and defend the comments. If he was disillusioned because he was expecting a bigger reaction here and didn't get it, there were better ways to express it. I still hope he continues fighting and will cheer him no matter the decision, though.

The other problem I have is that some of the journalist's valid criticism gets lost when they go on tangents based more on backlash than facts. So, I think some of the points are fair (especially as it relates to not biting the hand that feeds you), but others fall victim to their own hyperbole.
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Fair & balanced.

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"Joe Calzaghe is like that drunk uncle who stays too long, talks too much, and just when you think he is going to leave, he is back to annoy you....It is so like this egomaniacal buffoon to think that the sport will not survive without him. Joe, just for the record, the sport was around long before you got here, and it will be around long after you’re gone. That I guarantee. And maybe it will have members who are a bit more grateful and giving to the sport that made them millionaires"

"Trust me Joe; you were diluted long before boxing ever got to you my friend. If anything, boxing gave your life context. Maybe you think staying in a dead division for 10 years, and coming out to fight a bunch of old guys, somehow makes you this big “star” you think you are. It really doesn’t."

" The reason there are so many belts is because MEGA STARS like yourself wouldn’t fight anybody with any real talent during the best part of your career. The super middleweight division had no one of any real talent for years, and when it did, you seemed to not pay attention. How can a star be made when you don’t give anyone with a fighting chance a shot."

"I’m sure Tocker Pudwill, Mger Mkrtchian, and Will McIntyre would have understood if a superstar like yourself would have fought guys like Glen Johnson, and James Toney in their prime. Fighters that Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins had no fear in facing, while facing each other."

-All quotes from distinguished columnist Mike Cassell
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I keep seeing James Toney's name brought up as a possible Calzaghe opponent.

Please tell me when this fight ought to have been made ?

A month and a year.

And when did Toney fight Hopkins ?

Distinguished. The man can't tell his ass from a hole in the ground !

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BigReg said: ↑

"If boxing is dying like Calzaghe said it was, he is one of the culprits as a fighter who also wants to promote, but has no idea what that takes. He supposedly co-promoted (if you can call it that) his November fight with Roy Jones, which did terrible at the gate and on pay-per-view. Do us all a favor, Joe -- retire and don't let the door hit you on the way out."
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Another distinguished fool !

Hindsight is always 20-20 !

Lennox Lewis, Winky Wright, Bernard Hopkins, Jeff Lacy, Paul Maligani, Glenn Johnson among many others, all picked Jones.

Some by UD and some by KO.

And guess who else picked Roy ?

Yep, you guessed it.

The distinguished Idiot, Dan Rafael.

New levels of hypocrisy !

cuchulain, Dec 16, 2008

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I have no respect for this Homer how bout he shut the **** up :good

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Hopefully Joe will fight on and confront this fat ****!

griff, Dec 16, 2008

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Hopefully Joe will fight on and confront this fat ****!
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Well, Rafael looks over 40 so he does meet the proper requirements. I think he might weigh too much though.

Achilleslststnd, Dec 16, 2008

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Achilleslststnd said: ↑

Well, Rafael looks over 40 so he does meet the proper requirements. I think he might weigh too much though.
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If he's over 40 then Chad Dawson will fight him cos he loves oldies

griff, Dec 16, 2008

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