{<Where is Evander Holyfield in ATG HW rankings?}>

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  1. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Pretty somewhat accurate,can't say I don't like it but Johnson a little high,Marciano should be there,Langford also.Tsyon I don't see him there.Anyway thank you...I kinda like it.:good
     
    catasyou, Dec 17, 2008
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  2. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well Holyfield never had a dominant run at top of the division like Tyson.
    He also didn’t beat Tyson when he was he’s top form.

    I rank Tyson slightly ahead of Holyfield based on accomplishments.
     
    Antsu, Dec 17, 2008
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  3. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Holyfield wasn't top form when he beat Tyson either.
     
    catasyou, Dec 17, 2008
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  4. Jedi Kasra

    Jedi Kasra New Member Full Member

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    Bert Sugar has him in as he once called it on an episode of "Ringside: Top 10 Heavyweights" the "Top 11" with him obviously being #11. I agree with this for the most part.
     
    Jedi Kasra, Dec 17, 2008
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  5. Jedi Kasra

    Jedi Kasra New Member Full Member

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    Your'e right, he didn't have an exactly dominating hold on the division, but he fought better guys. Holyfield was the #1 challenger for Tyson for two years as ranked by The Ring, the WBA & WBC. But who'd Tyson fight in 1989 through 1990, or let's put it frankly, in his whole career during his prime? Holyfield fought and beat the best, where Tyson only beat two world class fighters, and aged Larry Holmes and Michael Spinks. He was set to defend the undisputed championship against Tyson in '91, but he pulled out because of injuries.
     
    Jedi Kasra, Dec 17, 2008
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  6. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    About that,Bert has it right.
     
    catasyou, Dec 17, 2008
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  7. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Agreed:good
     
    catasyou, Dec 17, 2008
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  8. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Lower than Lennox Lewis, higher than Mike Tyson.
     
    El Cepillo, Dec 17, 2008
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  9. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    At least that should be standard issue.
     
    catasyou, Dec 17, 2008
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  10. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Well on saturday night we watched the legend fight to become the oldest HW champion ever and win his 5th HW belt.After arguably(to not say robbery) beating the much bigger champion he lost a MD.
    God bless you Evander!!!The true champion
     
    catasyou, Dec 21, 2008
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  11. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. Lennox Lewis
    4. Larry Holmes
    5. Jack Johnson
    6. Jack Dempsey
    7. Rocky Marciano
    8. George Foreman
    9. Evander Holyfield
    10. Joe Frazier
    11. Mike Tyson
    12. Sonny Liston
     
    Asterion, Dec 21, 2008
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  12. EpsilonAxis

    EpsilonAxis HNIC Full Member

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    In my opinion, you could EASILY have Evander between 3-5 if you wanted to.

    He has beaten a ridiculous amount of good fighters.

    Bowe
    Tyson
    Moorer
    Foreman
    Holmes
    Mercer
    Cooper
    Ruiz
    Douglass
    Qawi
    Tillman
    Dokes
    Thomas
    Tillis
    Rahman
    Oquendo
    Savarese
    Cooper


    That's just an amazing list to me. I can't think of anyone outside of Mohammed Ali and Lennox Lewis who fought tougher competition.
     
    EpsilonAxis, Dec 21, 2008
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  13. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I agree very much,he fought everybody,never ducked no one.And you can add the Valuev win there too after saturday night.
     
    catasyou, Dec 21, 2008
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  14. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Interesting list.I wouldn't put Marciano and especially Dempsey over him.
     
    catasyou, Dec 21, 2008
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  15. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    don't see how on earth you could have him between 3-5 considering the fights he has lost as well. Also fights with people like qwai should have no bearing on his atg heavyweight ranking.
     
    rydersonthestorm, Dec 21, 2008
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