Sadly, the end is nigh for Hatton.

Again Healy, YOU brought up the "real boxing fan" bollocks on page 4 not me (see below). Good luck with your continued "study" of this sport.

 

Because it makes or would have made more sense to fight the likes of Bradley (witter in the past) who were top of the 140 division rather than the score of 'who are theys?'

Judah, Mosley and Cotto are just merely example of the better class opposition that are in or around Hattons weight give or take, that Hatton could have fought and possibiliy beat some of them to prove he was P4P worthy

Instead he thought that by beating Oscar if he beat Pacman that he was P4P number one

Its utter bollocks if it doesnt suit you, which it doesnt obviously

 

Really good post, explained alot in it...

I will, cheers, dont need my name read out on tv to be classed a boxing fan

 

Fighting Bradely would prove nothing, certainly not to the haters. He's beat a 34 year old out of sorts Witter and a gatekeeper Edner Cherry. Thats it. If he beats the winner of Holt-Torres then people will start calling for a Hatton fight, not before.

 

Ah, so thats it. You're hating on my fame?

 

Ya thats it....

 

Kessler could put on a measly 7lbs and **** all over your average LHW. It's 7lbs for gods sake.

Maybe he'd lose to Dawson, but thats not exactly a disgrace. He is considered the best along with Calzaghe. And if he did lose I'd have no excuse, I wouldn't be crying about weight. I don't believe in weights unless its ridiculous proportions. I'm damn sure he'd beat a guy like Diaconu though, thats the comparison to Collazo. Paper belt holders.

Kessler is a skilled fighter, he does not rely on mauling guys in close.

 

spot on matey

 

Why doesn't Kessler move up then, where there are bigger names to shoot at?

Your thinking on the subject of weight is all over the place.

You say Hatton is a very good LWW but not 'transferable' to 147, in the next breath you say the weight gap is meaningless. It just doesn't add up.

You know the weight matters but you are so intent on discrediting Hatton you actually convince yourself otherwise.

 

It doesn't matter if you have skill has always been my point. If you are skilled at one weight you can move up one from your natural weight class and easily beat somebody like Collazo. There are countless examples today and throughout history, I don't even think I need to give them. Manny Pacquiao would probably go into a fight with Collazo a firm favourite and he started as a ****ing flyweight built like a brush. Firm proof skills pay the bills.

Of course it matters if all you ever do is try to chokeslam an opponent.

Kessler may move up at some point, I've heard him talk about it before. Mark my words it will not be a hardship for him.

 

Why do people boil down to the lowest weight they can, if weight is irrelevant?

 

Being down in weight is a good sign of sufficient training. Anybody trains as hard as they can whilst remaining strong so as to not overtrain.

 

So why does Pac always "use" all the extra weight avaliable to him when he moves up in weight. Why does he not find his optimal weight, fight at that and lets his opponents come in at whatever weight they like?

As for you oft repeated <ahem!> "theory" (in reality its just your homebrew ad hoc mechanism for putting Hatton down) that fighters should be able to move up a weight and deal with Collazo-like fighters comfortably, I suggest you look at the record of ATG and HOF light heavyweight Bob Foster, he has loses to Doug Jones, Zora Folley and Ernie Terrell in his forays into heavyweight.

 

Sigh. Another terrible terrible example.

That's two weight classes.

It's hardly 7lbs to fight Luis Collazo

 

You're showing your ignorance. It was one weight class.