Which one of these was the most disgraceful/blatant act of cheating?

You honestly don't think the refs actions in round 12 weren't cheating in favor of Bute?

 

first of all, Andrade HAS to stay in the neutral corner. Thats the rule. So its not cheating if the ref enforces the rule

secondly, Bute beat the count. He was up by the count of 7, and the round was over. The ref would have to be ******ED to end the fight when Andrade cannot even throw another punch.

 

Correct me if i'm wrong but you're a Bute fan right?

 

I did not see that fight, but as I understand it the count starts ringside as soon as a fighter hits the deck, and the ref. picks up the count once he's got the opposing fighter in a neutral corner. What happened in the Bute-Andrade fight?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVSYKzXmKhI&feature=related

See for yourself. You want to go to about 2:50 into round 12.

 

The ref. screwed-up, but Bute was up at 7 on my unofficial count. BTW-very nice inside work by Andrade.

 

sure, I like both Bute and Andrade

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're not a fan of Bute right?

 

I see what you're saying. But I still think the acts of the ref in that situation was definitely cheating. He didn't have to spend that extra time telling Andrade to go to the neutral corner when he was close enough to it.

 

I voted for the Williams fight but in a lot of ways the Branco one was worse.

Bute/Andrade was controversial but not in the same league.

 

I have to go with the first one.

Bute-Andrade, there was still the possibility Lucian could've survived and Andrade wouldn't have gotten to him in time (I thought Bute was up before 10, even before the ref's bull****). It was a toss up to me as to whether or not Librado would've finished him, but Andrade definitely got robbed of the opportunity to go for it at the very least.

If I remember correctly, the right man still won in that German fight you're mentioning and overcame the blatant cheating- one of the most obvious acts of disregarding rules I've seen in recent history. The right guy winning was really the only thing that makes it a close second for me.

But the first option, not only was blatant bull**** but it genuinely robbed the other guy of the win. I've never seen a stoppage like that where the winning fighter gets jobbed for just having some swelling where he did. It wasn't even interfering with his vision.

 

That fight had little to do with Germany. A Turkish promoter rang a Spanish belt in a fight between a Kazakh and UK fighter.

The Andrade-Bute ending was clearly horrible. Under no circumstances a fighter can be saved by the bell, therefore he doesn't only have to beat the count but have to be in a condition for the ref to let is continue, AND after that the time keeper can ring the bell. Bute was in no condition for the ref to let it go, but the ref refused that, he let the fight ON, and only AFTER that the bell rang. Therefore it was a horrible decision from the ref who clealy made a hometown decision, knowing there's no time for Andrade to finish him off. Pretty much the worst moment of 2008.

 

that Turk is more than likely based out of Germany.

 

... and what? That still doesn't change the fact that Spain is not part of Germany. In Germany, no such thing can happen.

 

I won't call it disgraceful because I liked the guy but under the category of blatant cheating- Diego Corrales in the greatest fight of all time blatantly spitting out the mouthpiece to buy some extra time, classic stuff!

 

The rules says the ref has to stop the count if the fighter leaves the neutral corner. Andrade was half way across the ring.