Pavlik vs. Abraham this summer for real?

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  1. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Kelly made it perfectly clear that he will not fight AA in Germany. He saw AA/Miranda I, and said no way will he fight there. This one has AC written all over it. If Arthur is not comfortable with that, Vegas is more neutral. AA fought the Miranda rematch practically in Edison's living room! I doubt if he'll fuss over location.
     
  2. Guy

    Guy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who graded the oppostition?
     
  3. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I did. It's the one thing on that post that is pretty subjective. And, guys like Lockett and Ayala hurt the score bad. You do one.
     
  4. man_on_the_spot

    man_on_the_spot Active Member Full Member

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    So what? The only thing interesting here is the reach. The rest is meaningless.

    I will break it down differently

    punching power: aa
    strength: aa
    handspeed: tie (both are rather on the slow side)
    footspeed: aa (but not meaning much, both are not really fast)
    defense: aa (by a mile)
    chin: aa
    working rate: kp
    stamina: hard to tell, but kp looked very winded vs taylor and bhop

    I won't rate skills, because both a rather limited (in different ways) when it comes to punching technique. I really don't see any of this being disputable by the way. Once KP tastes AA's power the whole outlook of the fight will change.
     
  5. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    How old are you, and how long have you been a boxing fan? Serious question.
     
  6. man_on_the_spot

    man_on_the_spot Active Member Full Member

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    well, how old are you? Because what are you doing all day except being on KP's genitales?
     
  7. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    No need for such a juvenile response. I ask a serious question simply because your posts reveal a clear lack of in depth understanding of the sport of boxing. If you're just a kid, or a new fan, we can excuse that, and hope you benefit by exposure to the many knowledgable fans on ESB.
     
  8. ya-ni

    ya-ni Guest

    Easy fight to perdict,,,,abramam by KO,,,palvik got no chin, easy fight to pick,,,,still be shocked if HBO lets palvik take this fight, they got a couple of more years in him
     
  9. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Let's see now -- Miranda made Abraham look like something out of a slasher film, but could not even make Pavlik blink. I guess AA is the one with chin issues, as in BUSTED ALL TO **** by the same guy that couldn't make Pavlik take a step back. Christ you're an idiot.
     
  10. ya-ni

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    No palvik has got serious chin problems, he's been down many times in his career, miranda is no great boxer he is a puncher, an that night the other puncher one,,,AA is not just a puncher but a boxer, this guy will be palvik toughest test to date, an he already lost one of those other lesser test, an had a close one for a few rounds in the other two,,,,If palvik had his chin broken in a fight, no question that fight would be over,,,,AA will break palvik down, then KO him,,,,,HE GOT A SCHOOLED BY A 43 YEAROLD, enough said....
     
  11. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd also add that:

    Loss count: KP 1 AA 0
     
  12. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    ...that is Hector Javier Velazco and Raul Marquez...plus one beat him (Pavlik) clearly and the other (in the rematch) came close to it...
     
  13. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Now this is a great fight, 2009 is already looking like a fantastic year for boxing.

    Both have a lot to gain from this, if Abraham wins hes a new superstar if Pavlik wins redemption at its finest.
     
  14. Finn73

    Finn73 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pavlik may win, but only if he is able to change his game plan. If he fights the usual way he cannot avoid to get hit big. If Pav fights clever he has a good chance though. Anyways, I predict that AA will bust the ghost between the 7th and the 10th round. It will be a battle and I'm eagerly looking forward to it!
     
  15. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    Let B-Hop fight with AA just to see.

    AA would land less than KP