Stevie "Lil' But Bad" Johnston

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  1. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How do you see fights between Grigorian and Johnston/Bazan/Castillo playing out Mantequilla?
     
    sweet_scientist, May 2, 2008
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  2. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My card for Johnston-Bazan I: 115-114 Johnston
    Cesar winning rounds 3,4,8,10 and 12.
    Stevie winning rounds 1,5,6,7,9 and 11.
    Round 2 even.

    This one could have gone either way though. 2nd round could go to Bazan and the 11th was close to an even round I think.
     
    sweet_scientist, Dec 22, 2008
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  3. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why was this guy so consistently robbed, out of curiosity?
     
    Russell, Dec 22, 2008
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  4. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Maybe it was his style, workmanlike and tricky, wasnt a guy who wowed you with sweeping moves or big punching, he just got to work and picked you apart....excellent little fighter who hangs with a lot of guys at the weight alltime and gives them hell I imagine.
     
    WhataRock, Dec 22, 2008
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  5. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, he didnt.

    Stevie was a very good fighter, in his prime he would have given alot of lightweights a run for thier money, and beaten many others. I think he'd beat any of the current lightweights.

    Floyd was just a bit too talented, and good though, and would have clearly outpointed Stevie.
     
    Xplosive, Dec 22, 2008
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  6. good right hand

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    stevie would be threat to mayweather imo, he could use his size to the advantage and if he got mayweather on the ropes... as many advantages that mayweather has, i dont think the ability to counter stevie off the ropes without the aid of his great foot speed would be one of them.

    stevie was so akward when i remember him, he would come out from below and plant his head right in front of the slit of a fighters peek a boo guard and just work right uppercuts and left crosses down the middle. then when you try and punch and spin away, he would slip that punch, counter and then put his face right between the slit of your gloves again and punching through the middle again.
     
    good right hand, Dec 23, 2008
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  7. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Though Im of the belief that Mayweather would have to much for Stevie and would likely outpoint him...He hasnt faced anyone like him, certainly not in his superfeather-lightweight days...I suppose he fought guys like Corley, Mitchell and Judah later on but comparing them to Johnston is just to much of a stretch..Stevie was nothing like them apart from the stance and at his best would have been better then all of the versions of those fighters PBF faced.

    Would have been an intriguing matchup IMO.
     
    WhataRock, Dec 23, 2008
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  8. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Very underrated/overlooked fighter. Shame he never got the big fights with Mosley or Mayweather.
     
    My2Sense, Dec 23, 2008
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  9. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree Rock.
     
    sweet_scientist, Dec 23, 2008
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  10. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    SS do you think hes a HOF?

    i think based on some of the inductees in recent years that he should make it.
     
    bladerunner, Dec 23, 2008
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  11. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think you and most other sensible people would be with me blade in thinking that he satisfies the Zaragoza-McGuigan-Mitchell test for entry, but if the HOF was a serious institution he should be the type that falls just short of HOF status.

    It will pain me greatly when the likes of Jose Luis Castillo make it to the HOF and someone like Stevie doesn't even get on the ballot for candidacy. He was surely no inferior fighter to a Jose Luis Castillo.

    Thems the breaks though unfortunately. I mean, you really have to question the priorities of the HOF when guys like Mitchell get in and guys like Famechon, Rose, Laciar, Winstone and Moore aren't even on the ballot for selection.
     
    sweet_scientist, Dec 23, 2008
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  12. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    who decides the HOF entry ballot
     
    GPater11093, Dec 23, 2008
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  13. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lifted from boxrec's page on the HOF:

    "Members of the Hall of Fame fall into five categories: Modern, Old-Timer, Pioneer, Non-Participant, and Observer, and are chosen by a vote of 150 boxing experts, historians, and writers. The voters hail from all parts of the globe. In order to be placed on the ballot, individuals must first clear a pre-screening committee of boxing historians. Modern fighters are additionally required to have been retired for five years. Non-participants can be elected to the Hall of Fame even if they are still active, assuming they have achieved enough in their careers to merit selection.
    The board of directors of the Hall of Fame determines how many people are to be inducted each year. The candidates who accrue the most votes are those who become inductees. Ballots are mailed out on November 1 each year with the announcement of the new class of inductees coming in mid-January."
     
    sweet_scientist, Dec 24, 2008
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  14. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My Johnston-Manfredy card: 116-113 Johnston

    I gave rounds 2,4,5 and 12 to Manfredy. I gave rounds 1,3,6,7,8,10 and 11 to Johnston.
    I had rounds 9 even (10-10).

    Great action fight this was, with Johnston proving himself to be a little bit sharper all round. Angel tried his guts out though, despite getting worked over pretty good in the second half of the bout.
     
    sweet_scientist, Dec 24, 2008
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  15. The Funny Man 7

    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Mitchell win was an outstanding performance.
     
    The Funny Man 7, Dec 25, 2008
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