Convince me about Harry Greb

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by True Writer, Dec 23, 2008.


  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I'll try and answer that question in exchange for the answer to, Why can anyone who has access to a computer post whatever they feel like?
     
  2. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The two tapes of Harry do show some slivers of info for those of us ready to take in anything on this great. In many pictures Harry had his right hand in an unusual position, in the sparring session he threw his right from this set which let me know how he did it, an odd chopping punch. He appears far faster then I would have thought, doesn't seem interested in setting for his punches, but rather to throw numerous punches fast, and maybe not thrown technique wise the best. If...he actually could move that fast round after round, geese! He didn't appear very strong for a middleweight and his feet and hand postions might indicate not much umph in his punches. Now don't waste your time blasting me, its just fun seeing what one,,,thinks,,,they can pick up from these slight tapes. Tim
     
  3. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:
     
  4. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ................Just a troll, I think. I wouldn't bother with this one.
     
  5. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Greb is the pivot by which we can separate the old heads/purists from the new jacks. Here's why: to appreciate Greb demands research. Janitor nailed it -but he did so because he referred to his notes. There is no film that we know of that gives us a first-hand glimpse, we only have names on that golden ring record and many of those names were serious guys fighting in serious times. Greb's defeat of Tunney and Walker are stand-outs in any era. We can draw conclusions from such things that will be both valid and reliable.

    Any boxing fan who wants to get serious needs to do their homework. Begin with Greb. The old heads and purists out can be counted on to grade you -ruthlessly- so don't cheat or slack or get stupid.
     
  6. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Nobody has enough concrete evidence to sensibly come to such a conclusion. Greb's outstanding resume and the fighters he fought can only be used as a hazey guage. His longevity and dynamite chin against the best of his era in over 300 fights tells us a lot about him.

    But the bottom line is that "you can only call it as you see it". And with Greb thats impossible.

    If 20-30 of Greb's best wins were released on perfect DVD quality tommorow, then things could be judged accurately. Who's to say that he might not quite live up to the hype that surrounds him if he was viewable. I'm pretty sure he was as good as historians of the past claim he was.
     
  7. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Like any old tyme boxer wher film footage is eather lacking or dose not exest. You have to go by and trust the historical written record. I don't know where i rank Greb but he is certaanly an all time great.
     
  8. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    He had 299 fights I think. Shame on you! :nono:lol:
     
  9. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    303, although some resources have his total at 299. And even if I'am wrong, no shame on me. :good
     
  10. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Nice avatar. Easily the best captured, in-ring, shot of all-time. Basilio-DeMarco.
     
  11. heehoo

    heehoo TIMEXICAH! Full Member

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    Greb beat so many Hall-Of-Famers it's not funny. Hearns had that killer right hand, but Greb would be slashing, moving around, slapping Tommy to a unanimous decision over 15 rounds.
     
  12. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks i agree. Hy Peskin is one of the best photographers of all time.
     
  13. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    I'm sure he's posted this Greb thing before. :huh
     
  14. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But why dont we have any footage, why?!
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's a recurring theme with him, for sure.

    He seems to dislike dead fighters generally,which is a hell of a thing to have someone be able to say about you...