Angelo Dundee - De la Hoya was not over-trained...

Dundee's an old fart. I think he was just happy, in that old person's way, that someone is paying attention to him.

Nacho ****ed up and is not gonna say he ****ed up. His job was to win the fight. Oscar needed his size and height. Nacho took those away from him.


Either way, ok win for Pac, just not as impressive as Barrera, Morales, and Marquez. Hoya looked like an old woman trying to cross a busy street in that fight.

 

Poor Oscar, got old like all fighters do.

Prime Hoya knocks Manny out and his mustache inside 5.

 

Oscar losing had nothing to do with being overtrained. It has to do with the fact that he can't let his hands go, and he has no legs or movement anymore.

 

Nothing? How do you know? I bet even a group of 5 doctors together will have their hands full at finding the exact reason out.

Strange enough he could all do it in training up untill a few days before the fight. And physically seen it is simply impossible to ''lose'' this overnight (unless u have an accident, tumur, etc.).
In the Forbes fight he also could still do it.

I don't say the only reason was because he was overtrained. But it definately has something to do with it.

All in all, it was a combination of different factors. It is not so simple to blame it solely on one thing or the other. That's black and white thinking. If I'm correct there was also somebody in front of him that night. Get my point?

 

Damm, you have no room to talk. If you were 100% wrong in saying Oscar KTFO Pac before the fight, only fair to assume you are 100% wrong again in this statement.

 

Pacquiao nut-huggers say before every fight that their man wins, and just because they got lucky in this one with Hoya being physically inept, everybody else don't know ****? I picked the most likely outcome, considering most factors, except for the one that ended up to be the story of the fight. Hoya was shot.

 

Err no. I picked Pac and analyzed the fight and it went pretty much the way I predicted. Only difference is the KO came earlier. I actually put a bet down for 9/10/11/12 KO for Pac...gutted the fight was stopped in between rounds. I said all along that Pac's speed & workrate will trouble Oscar, your inability to see past size(the bulk of your analysis) is not our fault. Take it like a man, you were wrong, you have no right on your say of what Pac is capable of.

 

Rubbish is your love of Soccer. That reason, had people listened to me, would have been the reason they didnt lose bets. You Oscarsexual fools are an ignorant lot, and still in denial. :good

 

Now is the perfect time for the Trinidad Rematch, Trinidad-de la Hoya 2...."No Where to Run":smoke

 

some people are still on the denial that pac's skill had something to do while this fight is as lopsided as it is. they only think one way and it was oscar's fault. shot, weight-drained, threw the fight. boys, please made up your mind if what is the your real "official excuse". some keyboard warriors here even says that they could knock themselves oscar that night.

 

Or, "Final Revenge" Oscar de la Hoya vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, at 154, baby!!!

 

It's quite ironic that you call pro Oscar people Oscarsexuals (wether it's legit or not) and seem to not like the man, but on the other hand you appear on every single thread about him and seem kind of obsessed with him. If you hate the dude so much why do you put so much energy into writing/posting about him.:rofl It seems like the only posts you make are about Oscar.:huh

I think (deep) under that ''hate'' of you is some affection towards him.:yep:hey

The only other explanation might be that you are Mr Fernando Vargas himself!

No offense though. Just something I happenend to notice.

Merry Christmas to all.

 

Me, Fernando Vargas? :yepFlattering, but I am not El Feroz. Just a knowledgeable fan who can take apart a fight like a surgeon, and who has forgotten more Boxing this morning than Max Kellerman and Vivek Wallace know now, have ever known, or will ever know, combined. smooch

 

I do take it like a man. I was wrong, absolutely wrong. I had no idea De La Hoya was a shot item, and if you look at my posts, I always said Oscar beats Pacquiao even if they are the same size, and I still believe that to be true. It wasn't just because Hoya had size advantages, it's also because prime Hoya is more talented than Prime Pac.