Marquez: "Objectively, I Can Honestly Say Hamed Shouldn't Be In The Hall Of Fame"

I think Naz took one of the hardest shots I've ever seen land in that fight, and he didn't budge. A credit to his chin, but the man's career was took apart in that fight, and Barrera turned into Boxing royalty.

 

You're very objective, dude. He's at his best when he could beat them, not at his best, if he lost to them. You are a very learned boxing analyst. I'm impressed w/ your assumptions. :yep

 

this is part of what annoys me about naz i think he hd alot more talent than people give him credit for but he was a ****ing moron and never learnt that you can't get by on talent alone. He should have learnt how to box at a much younger age and then who knows what he might have done.

 

Even if he had, Barrera was a hard guy to beat during 2000-2003. His combination punching was some of the very best I've ever seen, and that cold look he had throughout his fights. Oh man! That guy got me into Boxing, and nobody will ever surpass him as far as I'm concerned. No shame in losing to Barrera, just a shame he never tried to vindicate himself. Barrera did that multiple times during his career.

 

what do you think about hamed vs pacman at 122 and 126?

 

The speed of Pacquiao's attacking thrusts versus Hamed's defence = early brutalization.

IMO

 

Hamed has more chance of beating Pacquiao, because although Manny is great and has proved that over the past few years, he has never showed the type of Boxing Barrera was showing during his prime. Barrera had extraordinarily fast hands, especially in 3-4 punch combinations, and used every punch in the book to take out Salud and Sanchez. I don't think Manny beats Barrera of the Hamed fight, and people can disagree with me all day, but I will back up my claims.

I think Pacquiao vs Hamed at 126 is a pick 'em fight. Pacquiao's style will play into Hamed's hands, but how will The Prince deal with Pacquiao's combination of speed and pressure. I think someone gets knocked out, but to be fair to Manny, he wasn't really at his best at 126.

I just don't imagine Naz being knocked out early, and against the attack of Pacquiao at 126. Like I say, he was never a huge puncher, he was just use an accumulation to overwhelm his opposition.

Pacquiao would be favourited, but not by early round destruction. Hamed had fast hands, and had more than enough power to put Manny away, who had been taken out at Flyweight twice.

 

That is how is see it selfkill, to be fair pacfan is to much of a hater to be objective alot of the time, he knows his boxing but saying that manny would put hamed away early is nothing but biased ****, hamed with his weak chin who was hurt so often.

 

I think Pacquiao is the superior fighter and that's undeniable, but Boxing is all about styles. Hamed took some unholy shots against Barrera, and most of the knockdowns that he suffered in his career was a result of bad balance, not from being hurt. Pacquiao is more liable to be hurt in my estimation, and he was hurt in both Marquez fights at one point or another, especially in the 2nd and 8th in their rematch.

 

**** you mate with your "hater" bull****. I actually went to a few of the Prince's fights, I thought (and still think) he was fantastic entertainment, but unlike you I am not naive enough to think that this equates to being a great boxer. Pacquiao would have been Kryptonite for Hamed. How is a boxer without any guard, who doesn't even hold his hands up, going to defend himself against lightning-quick thrusting attacks with power that just keep springing forward again and again? It would end early. If you disagree, fine, but spare me this infantile "hater" nonsense you ****ing ****.

 

oh i agree with that as well pacman is looking like he might go onto be a true atg fighter, if he could beat ricky and floyd then he has to be top 25 atg maybe higher. I just think at the lower weights his chin wasn't solid and his style wasn't right for a hamed fight.

 

Why do you think his chin wasn't solid??

 

Dinamita, I just feel although Hamed had a leaky defence, Pacquiao's defence wasn't much to boast about during his time at 126, either.

If it's a gunfight, with both fighters landing shots, which I think it would be, would it not be a case of who takes the shots better? Pacquiao was better at 130, and Hamed was not master boxer, but that guy could hit. It's a pick 'em fight for me.

 

you are a hater pretty plain and simple your not objective about guys you don't like and spend far to much time trying to downgrade what skills they ahve or what thye have acheived.
Unlike you as well i can read not one place have i said hamed was a great boxer quite the opposite infact.
In terms of pacman it would only take one biug shot from hamed and he would be on his arse, hamed chin and power are far greater than pacman and hamed was also faster.

 

he has been hurt before and koed twice at lower weights, his chin is betetr now than it was at lower weights infact i don't think pacman was that great a fighter below 130, he seems to me to me to be far bttter suited to 130 and above.