Pavlik Abraham and Kessler: The Round Robin

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  1. radab

    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pavlik, Abraham and Kessler.

    Probably THE most interesting round robin i can think of in boxing. Who do you think would beat who?

    For me Pavlik vs Abraham could really go either way and Kessler beats them both.
     
  2. Finn73

    Finn73 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We had this a few times before...

    Anyways, I think Kessler would beat both by decision, but I'm not sure if he gets over the rounds. He never had lost by KO, but I think both Pavlik (with his long reach, powerful combos and relentless pressure) and AA (super-solid defense and monster punches) could change that. Kessler is an excellent boxer, but he's not as outstanding as BHop who can avoid to get hit all the time.

    AA beats Pavlik imo, because Pav won't change his style which is tailor-made for AA. He really likes to fight fighters. The advantages will be his chin and his one punch power while Pav has to let his hands go several times.

    Very difficult fights for all of them and also difficult to predict.
     
  3. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Id pick both Kessler and Abraham to beat Pavlik, and Kess to out point AA.
     
  4. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Interesting fights. I feel that noone in boxing wants to fight Kessler although he is clear top dog at SMW. The rest are happy to fight for second place it seems. And at MW Abraham is almost as avoided because of his monster power.
     
  5. Machine

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    IMO Pavlik beats Abraham decisively because AA is limited and Kelly is superior in every area and Kessler beats both because he is a no risk fighter that has the skills to beat everyone in his weight area other than particularly slick, fluid or unorthodox styles like Calzaghe (obviously) or perhaps Dawson.
     
  6. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i find that interesting, AA isnt diverse I agree, but Pavliks limitations have been proven, he is just as limited maybe even more so..
     
  7. MJSaith1

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    Kessler over both, Abraham has the Best Chin in Boxing, Miranda broke it and he still won, his defense is really good too, but Kessler UD. Pavlik at 160 is a force, but no way he beats Mikkel at 168, or Calzaghe at 175. Calzaghe over them all, Kessler over everyone else. Pavlik/Abraham at 160 is the fight.
     
  8. Clearly Cool

    Clearly Cool Active Member Full Member

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    I think Abraham has the best chance of beating Kessler. For what its worth I think Kessler has the best skills and ability of the three, but with AAs one punch KO power he might be able to suprise Kess, otherwise a wide decision for Kessler.

    Pavlik I think would need to land a lot more than I think he could, to beat Kessler, who I think outboxes Pavlik quite easily, maybe even stops him.

    Pavlik vs. Abraham would be a great fight, probably the best of the lot. Abrahams shell defense would not work very well against Pavlik who is accurate and has great volume, but AA has pop and chin so will be no easy task. Either way it would be very interesting.
     
  9. THN

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    As a fan of Kessler I have no doubt he would stop Pavlik. Abraham is another story, a wide ud to Kessler if he can avoid the bombs from Abraham.
     
  10. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    Pavlik KO's em both. After he was schooled by Hops they're gonna be overconfident. Kelly applies the lessons he learned and practiced w/his superior work ethic. They come in proud and leave humbled.
     
  11. Slider75

    Slider75 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Abraham would knock Pavliks head off. Kessler would beat them both by wide UD
     
  12. treva1977

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  13. Machine

    Machine Active Member Full Member

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    I always thought Pavlik looked pretty limited but he just kept taking guys apart. And working over guys with skills like JT is not easily done, so he convinced me he's got something. Hopkins made him look bad no doubt but Bernard also made the great Trinidad look like a club fighter and Winky look like a handicap. To me AA looks like an accident waiting to happen. He looks like a fighter who is going to get battered by a volume puncher who he simply can't keep up with or belted for twelve rounds by a guy with good skills who he can't get near. And to me that decribes Pavlik and Kessler. AA v Pavlik is a fight that needs to happen and my money is on the fight to end via TKO with Pavlik battering AA into submission around 6 with the last four being onesided.
     
  14. Dudemeister

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    That´s how i see it too.Both beat Pavlik rather easily when it´s all said and done.Kessler vs AA ends in about 70-80% in a wide UD for Kessler and in about 20-30% in a KO in AA´s favor...
     
  15. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did you find that one in a Christmas c-racker?:D