Miguel Cotto and Kelly Pavlik seem to think they are PPV Stars? WTF???

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jack Presscot, Dec 27, 2008.

  1. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2007
    Messages:
    29,921
    Likes Received:
    35
    The real problem with this PPV is the opponents of both. And really it's Ol' man Arum at the wheel, ****, the fighters just fight.
     
  2. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2008
    Messages:
    26,774
    Likes Received:
    8
    I guess you guys dont know nothing about Cotto because his 2 belts he has won were both vacant. he hasnt beat a titleholder yet. so this is the 3rd time already, do your homework.
     
  3. Jack Presscot

    Jack Presscot Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2005
    Messages:
    6,489
    Likes Received:
    1
    DISAGREED Completley, unless Pavlik is an ignorant mule. If I am Kelly Pavlik, and I am the Middleweight Champion, I am, regardless of my Promoter, going to have a HUGE say in how my fights are promoted. Otherwise, I walk. It's why Oscar got away from Arum. If Kelly knows the sport, he should tell Arum that he against this jobber, will not sell well outside of Youngstown.
     
  4. Suge Green

    Suge Green Boxing Junkie banned

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2006
    Messages:
    7,678
    Likes Received:
    3
    Who are you disagreeing with...I don't see any comments here that are in opposition to the above quote...???
     
  5. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2007
    Messages:
    79,438
    Likes Received:
    2,646
    in my eyes Cotto is a bonafied PPV star and i will pay to watch him in any competitive fight.
     
  6. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2007
    Messages:
    29,921
    Likes Received:
    35

    OK, all fair points, I'm just a fan and don't know **** about the business end of the deals. But to your last point, I did read yesterday that this jobber will be held in Youngtown's Civic Arena. :lol:
     
  7. Jack Presscot

    Jack Presscot Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2005
    Messages:
    6,489
    Likes Received:
    1
    I like Pavlik a lot. I was mad at him for beating up my boy Jermain "Drain the Main Vein" Taylor, TWICE but the kid is all heart, balls and guts. I like his style. He had a miserable night against a master, Bernard Hopkins at an unnatural weight. And he is PPV Worthy IF the opponent is right.
     
  8. stack

    stack Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2007
    Messages:
    336
    Likes Received:
    0
    im pretty sure they tried to match cotto up against berto (a WW titleholder) but berto's handlers said he wasnt ready for cotto
     
  9. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2008
    Messages:
    26,774
    Likes Received:
    8
     
  10. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2008
    Messages:
    26,774
    Likes Received:
    8
    actauuly Arum backed down. Berto was ready for that fight and Arum didnt let Cotto do that because thats a dangerous fight. he found jennings and let that fight happen. samething with Margarito, Williams was gonna touch him up again but Arum said no. even in 05 Mayweather wanted to fight Cotto and Arum said no. Arum is garbage.
     
  11. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2007
    Messages:
    29,921
    Likes Received:
    35

    :yep That's basically all I was tryin' to say with my first post too. Good to see you guys again BTW, work and shitz, I haven't been on ESB since like July I think.

    Home now though, and ready to get back in the swing, stayed up until 4 a.m. watchin' every fight OnDemand still had on it, because I hadn't seen any of the last few months fights. Where I was all I could do was wait for magazines to arrive and see what happened (like the month before:lol:).
     
  12. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2006
    Messages:
    39,848
    Likes Received:
    16
    Rubio beat Zertuche, Cuevos, and Orenales is his last 3 fights, so he earned is mandatory position a lot more so than many mandatories we've seen. I don't know anything about Jennings.

    Many Pavlik fans are also big Cotto fans, and vice versa. Almost everyone who is a fan of either fighter is anxious to see how they do after getting the **** kicked out of them. I know I am. At $39.95 this card will do decent numbers. It won't do great numbers, but it'll do okay.

    There are always 3-5 of us in my family who split the cost of a PPV, and my sis cooks up a great dinner. Always a fun family event, and a damn cheap night of entertainment.

    However, over the long term it would probably be better for the sport and better for the fighters to put Pavlik/Rubio and Cotto/Jennings on seperate cards on Verses.
     
  13. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2007
    Messages:
    45,002
    Likes Received:
    3
    If this is the standard for PPV's, nearly everything is worthy of PPV. Not what we need. Save that for superfights. They deserve the big money to encourage them to make those kinds of fights that we want to see.

    Disgraceful.
     
  14. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2006
    Messages:
    39,848
    Likes Received:
    16
    Hey Iceland -- that new avatar is AWESOME!!!
     
  15. rikanlink

    rikanlink Broward Boy Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2007
    Messages:
    1,022
    Likes Received:
    0
    tell that to money mayweather :good