Younger brothers are biologically disadvantaged!

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  1. Vanihm

    Vanihm Active Member Full Member

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    I thought this was interesting when it comes to boxing:
    A study of finnish birth records for over 100 years shows that firstborn sons were always (on average) bigger, more successful and produced more offspring than their younger brothers. The reason has something to do with the testosterone levels in the mother.

    But, knowing this, can anyone name famous brothers in boxing where the younger brother was more successful?

    I can think of Michael Spinks, though he was actually physically smaller than his brother (or at least lighter).

    Zab Judah's brothers are freak cases as well. Do they have the same mother?
     
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  2. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wladimir Klitschko, Rafael Marquez at one point, Ulises Solis, Nonito Donaire, Arturo Gatti...
     
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  3. Napoleon

    Napoleon Smokin' Full Member

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    Chris Byrd was a decent heavyweight champion, but his brother Patrick Byrd was at a lower weight class and he was no where near as good as Chris.
     
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  4. ghostlybadge

    ghostlybadge Punch Drunk Full Member

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    wlab is not as good as vitali may have achieved more but if vitali had not retired who would be holding all the belts
     
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  5. MasterFlo

    MasterFlo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My older brother is 2 inches shorter, 40 pounds lighter, and is gay. But he doesn't box, so who knows.
     
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  6. d00k

    d00k Member Full Member

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    There is the Bredahl brothers, the younger brother Johnny Bredahl was the most successful and talented boxer of the two. He won the WBA title at bantamweight. His big brother Jimmy Bredahl was WBO super featherweight champion and lost it to Oscar De La Hoya.
     
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  7. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Pavlik is the youngest of 3, and from what I understand they all 3 boxed ameture, and only Kelly went big time with it.
     
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  8. MattMattMatt

    MattMattMatt Guest

    Rahman Ali was Muhammed Ali's older brother, one of them was marginally better at boxing. ;)

    Also, Roger Leonard, Ray's older brother was a boxer. One of the two were quite good. :p
     
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  9. greengloves

    greengloves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i dont know if that is true at all ...

    i'm smaller by an inch to my big bro,he has about 4 stone on me but i'm the much better athlete in all the sports both us have played,i've handed it to him in sparring many times and once for real,although he usually just grabs me and throws me to the ground then!
    he's more successful than me,but im only 21,he's 34 ... i've a better education and neither of us have any wee ****s running about us
     
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  10. h2hkiller

    h2hkiller Guest

    Isn't Manny Pacquiao the younger of the brothers?

    I always thought younger brothers have an advantage over the younger purely because they can see the older brother's mistakes in training and in life. Plus, it helps being guided in the same sport from an early age. The older brother basically has to navigate his own way, and then helps his younger brother learn from the older brother's mistakes. At least, thats how it was for me and my brother. All the things I taught him was from my own experience and mistakes.
     
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  11. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This theory seems to have more holes in it then a colander.
     
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  12. venomus_p4p

    venomus_p4p Guest

    Wow
     
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  13. greengloves

    greengloves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    it obviously isn't fact though,simply a correlation so there are gona be so many anomalies to it the theory!
     
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  14. Vanihm

    Vanihm Active Member Full Member

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    Obviously yes, there is always a lot of "noise" - firstborn sons inheriting etc., but it has been "proven" that sons with more older brothers have higher probabiliy of being gay in some other study apparently. But people back then had, like 8 children and gave birth nearly annually, so it's hard to compare. I just noticed that Rafael Marquez and Johny Bredahl and a number of other big fighters wih brothers fought at a lower weight class than their older brothers.
     
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  15. NickBarker

    NickBarker Damnum Absque Injuria Full Member

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    BobPac is the younger brother.
     
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