Wladimir Klitschko: The most disrespected Champion in boxing

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  1. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    I have asked you before, and I will ask you again....

    Explain which knockdowns, or knockouts... other than his fight with Corrie Sanders, that prove Wlad has a weak chin? I have been waiting... but you don't seem to have an answer.

    You don't seem to realize that if you look back on Wlad's career... other than Sanders who just bombed a clearly unprepared Wlad out of the fight.... there just isn't anything to back up your statement. You can't even use the Sanders fight, because is fast as hell, and punches like a mule. Nobody is just going to keep eating flush powershots from Sanders and stay on there feet... it has nothing to do with chin... it has to do with Sanders' punches. At that stage in Wlad's career... he had absolutely NO idea what to do when a punch buzzed him. EVERYONE gets hurt in boxing. Wlad got buzzed by a HUGE left hand from Sanders, and didn't know how to react in order to recover. He just started trading with him and got caught over and over again. Clearly a flaw in his game and preparations at the time, not a damn thing to do with his chin. Tall fighter can't afford to get seriously hurt, and hit over and over again. There is no place for them to go, and the punches land too flush under the chin. Now, shorter fighters can afford to get hurt, they turtle up, and you can't easily get shots in on them. Examples are Toney, Tua, Tyson, ect... It is simply must easier to tell when a taller fighter is hurt, because they don't have the ability to just cover up, tuck in their chin and recover. Which is why Steward is teaching Wlad, just like all other great, tall fighters... that you have to learn how to clinch a person when they get in close. Tactical clinching.. it has ALWAYS been a part of boxing. Wlad hardly ever uses the clinch that often though... even though people try and pretend like he uses it all of the time. He did use it more against Peter, because Wlad was still in the process of learning Steward's system, and implementing his new gameplans and tactics. You could see Wlad's confidence, and skills grow with every fight under Steward.
     
  2. downthatbottle

    downthatbottle Please don't ban me Full Member

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    Do you think Wlad is going to fight Arreola or Povetkin next?
     
  3. CHEF

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    opppps. ****. I work for the guy and I cant get it right :lol:

    Povetkin wont be until the fall. Wlad has 9-11 months to fight him after Rahman per the IBF rules

    I think it will be Arreola next ....then Haye or Valuev ....then Povetkin
     
  4. Suge Green

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    That crap might work across the pond Chef...but people here know what time it is.

    WLAD started mouthing off about Haye once ViTKLiT got invloved...funny isn't it...???

    ...ViTKLiT's return already robbed fans of WLAD vs. Peter II, a fight many thought was the only fight in the division. Now he is taking away WLAD vs. Haye, again the only fight in the division.

    WLAD looks like ViTKLiT's little girl in this whole thing. So much for a legacy.

    This whole thing is PUS.

    Now WLAD wants to say Haye's name...:rofl
     
  5. Suge Green

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    ...a f*ckin' joke.

    WLAD is a sham.

    Arreola...???

    From Haye to Arreola...???

    Whatever Chef...WLAD has no legacy, other than impressive stats.

    He has no memorable fights, except when Peter was knocking him around the ring...and we all saw what big bro did to him.

    Yeah, it all makes WLAD look real good.
     
  6. downthatbottle

    downthatbottle Please don't ban me Full Member

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    Povetkin is a better fighter than Haye and Wlad is going to fight him.
     
  7. CHEF

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    Dude there is so much **** behind the sceens with Haye that I would love to share with you, but I cant (was told to be quiet). You would change your mind about it all. when its all said and done, I will share it.
     
  8. NBT

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    :lol: Seems like Suge is on fire again, the hate is still as strong in him as ever. He was humbled and was quiet down after the Peter desaster but it seems like he found a new (slim) hope in Haye and a new spin to hate on the Klitschkos, "The Klit Flip". I wouldn't wastet to much energy on Haye though, it would be wise to remember that PETER still CHOPS TREES. :yep
     
  9. CHEF

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    Suge...get you **** right. Haye wont fight Wlad until summer anyways. Haye has said that all along. It would be a summer fight against a klitschko. Its not "from Haye to Arreola" so Wlad should sit on his hands and wait until June /July for Haye..... you give me a ****ing break. What is so ****ing great about Haye anyways?
     
  10. CHEF

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::good
     
  11. CHEF

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    :good:good:good
     
  12. Suge Green

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    I'm not sold on Haye...and haven't been, in fact I'm skeptical of him.

    I however can recognize that Haye had the upperhand in the psychology department...so the "gamesmaster" ViTKLiT was called in to fix that.

    Did ViTKLiT used to protect WLAD when they'd walk home from school too...???
     
  13. Punisher33

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    It was very long paragragh, but I read it all anyway. I agree with some of what you said, Wlad has improved his defensive skills with the help of Steward, I stated that many times in my posts. His clinching and other little tricks, such as leaning on his oppents backs to tire them or even on occasion leaving the left out to post his oppenent up for the straight right, which are good tools to keep his oppenents at bay and keep them from getting to his weak chin.

    Sanders was ill prepared as well, he took the fight with little time to prepare as well, he was the only fighter on a long list that was willing to go to Germany to fight Wlad on such short notice, and he did the impossible. Peter had Wlad hurt by punches as well, even if you take away the 2 knockdowns, which I dont, you still have to give him the knockdown he gave Wlad late in the fight, where Wlad chose to fall instead of taking another punch from Peter who was looking finish him off since he knew he had his man hurt.
     
  14. downthatbottle

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    Wlad took care of Rahman for Vitali.

    Vitali is going to take care of Haye for Wlad.

    In either case, I think Wlad and Vitali would still win impressively.
     
  15. Jack Presscot

    Jack Presscot Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Waldo's system seems to work, clinch like a ***** against handpicked and weak ass opposition. In the 70's 80's or 90's he would not have survived. A 44 Year old Foreman would have toyed with his ass. Tactical Clinching is for homos, and scared fighters.