Vitali V Haye, how can Haye win?

Haye is a smart dude, and he knows he cant fight Vitali expecting to end it with one punch, he also must know one decent power shot from Vitali would put him on his arse,
and the size difference is huge, Haye does well against tall guys but they've usually been chinny, and vitali is prepared to take a punch to give one as we've seen with lewis and sanders, so its in his best interest that he tightens his defence and uses the ring to stay out of range, pot shot with the jab and move in and out and trying to counter Vitali like he has done with Enzo Mac and Gurov that being said, its easier said than done.

 

Whatever Haye decides to do, he's gonna have to adhere to it without fail for every second of every single round; this is a fight in which he CANNOT take his eye off the ball, even for a split second.

I think Haye will try one of two options:

1. He'll fight as the smaller/faster man, much like Byrd, Hide, and Sanders did. Fight a longer, drawn out affair, pot-shotting and countering when opportunities arise/are made. He certainly has the strength and speed to worry Vitali (he may not be able to KO him or blast him to pieces, but Haye punches INCREDIBLY hard, and no one will want to be on the receiving end of those for too long). I think Haye will have to use his size and speed to get in, land punches from awkward angles, land hard decisive punches to assert himself, then get the hell out again. If he takes a shot or gets in trouble, i think he should just high-tail it out of there and get Klit to chase him; hopefully tiring out Klit and getting Hayes **** together in the mean-time. No problem in taking a knee if need be, the fight is never going to go to points anyhow.


2. Haye will come out throwing bombs and will try to blast Klit out early. Maybe if he punces on him, doesnt let him settle or get his rhythm going, he may be able to able calculated pressure on him and force him to crumble, or at least take a lot physically and mentally early on. I MUCH riskier plan that is let down massively by Hayes chin/Vitalis strength.

Maybe a combination of the two? slick and mobile on the outside, then when the opportunity arises just go for broke and stick the foot on the gas? who knows, its gonna be an amazing fight either way!

 

Another point, Haye is very fast, arguably the fastest opponent that Vitali has faced,
and they say the hardest punches are the ones you dont see coming, and Haye is a very big puncher, and a very good counter puncher....I know im reaching, but im just throwing a few ideas around.

 

Haye hits harder, Hits faster and has all the advantages over vitali.
Expect an amazing stoppage by the hayemaker.

 

Yeah but he throws punches very weak.....he's wide as hell and you can see them.They are easy to counter.

 

I know this is a terrible example, but look how Pacman vs DLH turned out. All i'm saying is a lot of people are writing Haye off already, months before the fight; who knows how Vitali has really aged? we've seen small mobile fighters trouble Vitali before, so why not the fastest and strongest one of the bunch, maybe 3 rounds of hell is enough for Haye to get a shoe in the door for a decent chance? maybe Vitali will be injured again, maybe his training will be hampered? I could go on!

Vitali is certainly a beast, but you never know! he certainly aint gonna like those Hayemakers smashing his jawline!

 

Are you for real?atsch:nut

 

Use his superior footwork (Vitali looked like a rooted tree against Peter) and fire in combinations when Vitali leads. Haye has vastly superior speed of both hand and foot; that's the only chance he has. Given Vitali's low hands and the fact that Vitali hasn't faced a vaguely fast boxer since Larry Donald (SIX years ago) you've got to fancy this strategy.

The problem for Haye is that stopping Vitali is going to be next to impossible, while going the distance isn't going to be easy either. He should try to win the first 8 rounds using the above strategy, then fight a very defensive fight with plenty of clowning/mindgames and slowing the action whenever possible. That would take him through the last 4 rounds to win a decision.

Haye should focus in his training on conditioning, footwork and throwing combinations. Most important of all, of course, is ring generalship, so a lot of sparring would be a must.

While I think Haye winning is unlikely (though I haven't really thought about it much yet) I would be surprised if he's anything less than impressive. Vitali is not the man he was in 2004, let alone 2002; his power, speed and reflexes are all very declined. Haye is coming into his peak; he's got the best combination of speed and power that Vitali has ever faced; he has the vastly better punching technique, reflexes and handspeed.

Vitali might win on a cuts stoppage (unlikely but possible) or a stamina/accumulation stoppage (perhaps the likeliest outcome) but the more I think about it, the more likely a Haye win seems.

 

I think they have equal chances of knocking each other down/out. Vitali has not been a "destroyer" puncher against anyone with a better chin than Herbie Hide and given how slow he was against Peter, it's hard to imagine him hitting Haye with something that Haye doesn't seem coming... UNLESS Haye gasses.

 

The key for Haye is lighting fast (hand)speed, he should focus on speed & more speed. He'll never be able to outmuscle Vitali and will probably never outsmart Vitali. But being a former cruiser, he could (or should) have more time to see Vitali's punches coming and to react to them than he's used to. Handspeed + timing + body balance = devastating knock out power (in theory). Speedbags & heavybags on unstable underground would be my advice for training, combined with bodyweight exercises. Then again nowadays I get the feeling that modern boxers spend way too much time in the weightsroom.

He should hit Vitali VERY hard early on in the fight and stay on Vitali's left (considering he's vulnerable for cuts) and he can use left and right hooks around vitali's jab while avoiding Vitali's right cross and right uppercut.

But then again I see Vitali winning this fight 8 out of 10 times, but it would be good for boxing if Haye could shake the division up and prove once again that height and weight can be offset with technique and speed.

 

Haye throws punches very weak??????