What gift decisions did De La Hoya receive?

Likewise.

I thought it was fairly clear he lost that.

The Whitaker and Quartey fights are far from gifts, they were disputable, close decisions.

On the contrary, Trinidad was a deadset robbery, and the second Mosley fight was a close fight, but I thought it was fairly clear who won.

 

Agreed.

 

Jesus , the Trinidad fight a "deadset robbery"? I give up with you guys. I won't start arguing. It won't lead to anything . LOL

 

As many have said, the Sturm fight was the clearest case. Against Ike and Sweet Pea things were close enough that even though I really dislike Oscar I wouldn't blame someone for having Oscar take it by a point or two.

However in both cases the margins on the cards were much wider than they should have been, which is the original source of the idea that judges were on Oscar's side and that no one could expect to win a decision against him, especially in Vegas.

And because everyone is mentioning the Mayweather fight: the score shouldn't be as close as it was, since Mayweather began outclassing Oscar in the middle/late rounds when Oscar ran out of gas and stopped using his jab, (and also since Oscar's offense was almost entirely ineffective) but I blame that as much on Mayweather's relative inactivity at times and Floyd allowing it to look as though Oscar was overwhelming him on the ropes, even though the truth was that Mayweather was ducking dodging or blocking most of Oscar's shots and the ones that were landing were powerless.

 

Pacquio.

If his corner hadn't idiotically thrown in the towel, it was clear Oscar was gonna charge off that bench and whoop Pac's ass.

 

Yep, Nacho ****ed up Operation Rocky Balboa

 

sturm fight...cuz oscar said so in a spanish show once...they asked "did u really win that fight in your eyes oscar?" ...and he shrugged his shoulders and said, "I did my best"..he didnt say HE WON...he said HE DID HIS BEST...

 

Yes... a deadset robbery. Everyone except Tito huggers knows exactly who won that fight. It was clear... it was not even debatable. Oscar schooled Tito. Yeah he ran, yeah he's a ***** blah blah blah because he ran for 2-3 rounds... but that changes nothing about the fact that Oscar put on a clinic for entire fight before it. When people look back and assess their careers, it will be remembered as a victory for Oscar. Just like Pernell over Chavez, and Sturm over Oscar.

 

Quartey
Whitaker
Sturm
Mayweather (NEVER an SD)

On the otherhand he was robbed against

Mosley (2nd fight-Due to Mosley being on Balco and still losing)
Felix Trinidad

 

I agree 100%

 

I felt he beat Whitaker, in a close but clear decision. However - the rounds that Whitaker won were CLEAR ones, DLH tended to nick the close ones.

I'm not even going to bother with the Trinidad fight, because for the first 8/9 rounds Oscar made Tito look average..... 115-113 on my card.

Mosley I hasn't been on my screen for years, but having won the earlier rounds faded badly down the stretch and deserved to lose.

Mosley II was a robbery. Oscar outboxed Shane and dominated the fight, close but clear. Pre-written scores?

I haven't seen DLH vs Quartey

Sturm was a gift - pre-written scorecards

 

:nono He lost to Ike and Pea :deal

 

Whitaker, Sturm and Quarety, in that order.

 

Felix Sturm