The top 5 fighters in each weight division on a h2h basis as evidenced by film

Angott and Fusari obviously

Rumour has it Pea may well be the gatekeeper of the second Gavilan fight too :hey

 

I have his entire Welterweight career on Blu-Ray, maybe I'll send it over to you sometime. As to the question: I don't know, I guess I kinda like em all.:good

 

In all seriousness, there is actually a fair amount of footage of Robinson at Welterweight, a bit of which I've seen, but only in clips. I've even seen brief clips of one of his bouts with Fritzie Zivic from the standpoint of a hand-held camera.

Either way, my ranking of Robinson at Welterweight is mostly extrapolated from the footage I've seen of a younger, lighter Robinson at MW. Though, again, I have seen him at Welterweight on more than one occasion.

If I'm honestly the only one to have seen this footage I feel pretty special.

 

Light heavyweight:
1. Ezzard Charles
2. Archie Moore
3. Michael Spinks
4. Roy Jones Jr
5. Billy Conn/ Bob Foster

Lightweight:
1. Roberto Duran
2. Pernell Whitaker
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Julio Cesar Chavez
5. Ike Williams

Bantamweight:
1a. Eder Jofre
1b. Ruben Olivares
3. Carlos Zarate
4. Fighting Harada
5. Jeff Chandler

 

Explain this pick...

 

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specifically, what fights do you have of Charles?

 

Charles looks ok for an old-timer on youtube in all seriousness.

 

Hardly any of that is a prime Charles even, in fact I can only think of one clip (his fourth fight with Bivins, which is a very rough affair and the film is not in full) that shows him at LHW.

 

My point exactly. How can someone rank Charles the nr1 at LHW, based on whats on film (in the aforementioned Bivins bout), seems completely strange to me

 

Good point Nem...I think we all just took it for granted that Charles was number 1 there but I honestly have only seen a few clips of him there and Im starting to question whether it was actually of him at LHW.

 

I don't know why Roy Jones is thought so highly of at LHW. His optimal, most balanced strage seemed to be his SMW incarnation.

 

I dont rate him that highly there either..one of the greats but far from the greatest.

That being said I reckon prime Roy would be hard to knock off over 12, even at lightheavy.

 

Charles' 2nd fight with Lloyd Marshall, which was at LHW, is also on film and I believe that Minotauro has stated before in other threads that he has that footage.

 

Does no-one think that Emile Griffith deserves to be top 5 at ww?