Wiil Cotto rebound from the Margo loss?

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  1. Boxing Fanatic

    Boxing Fanatic Loyal Member banned

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    The dude was the man at 147 for some time now. That loss to Margarito was devastating to him. Does anyone believe he can do an "Ali" and rebound from this? Can he ever be the old cotto again?
     
  2. Blue145

    Blue145 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No one can know until he rematches Margo.. His reaction will define his career
     
  3. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I think he will rebound of course - but he ain't beating Margarito.

    He is essentially a pressure fighter, and needs to get back to that rather than outboxing people.

    That of course wouldn't work against Margo, but wouldn't make any difference how he fought - he has his number.
     
  4. BigBone

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    It will be very, very hard, it was a devastating loss both physically and mentally. I always felt Cotto had this unbeatable image of him, he was just too silent and a gentleman to shout out it to the world. This image was destroyed brutally. The real headache is that he didn't do anything wrong. In fact, what he did, worked for a while, but Margarito walked through evertyhing and came back like beast. For the first time, I saw fear in Cotto's eyes... he understood he can get hurt seriously. Not just getting beat... but giving up any hope that his skills can somehow prevail is a very serious blow to the mind, especially for an unbeaten fighter. Cotto never lost a fight since the Olympics, never lost a fight as a grown man.

    But only time will tell. Arum knows how to get back fighters on track. But I don't see him getting to the 11th round in a rematch.
     
  5. TFFP

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    It will be tough mentally. Something leaves you when you lose your undefeated record in an era where losses are looked down upon as something awful.

    Physically I'm sure he'll be okay. It's just one fight, the kid is tough and young.

    I'm optimistic so I say yes.
     
  6. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Definetely yes,he is a super physical and mental specimen and an elite fighter.I'm sure he will be back on top.
     
  7. Lance_Uppercut

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    I think he will. Cotto is already a mentally strong fighter.
     
  8. bennyj

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    Ya as long as he doesnt fight dangerous guys like Hatton, clottey, margarito again, or cintron.. He has shown to not be very durable, nor chinworthy
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

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    Cotto would be tested by Clottey, but he would be a fave vs. Hatton and Cintron. Hatton's just too small for 147. Cintron would have a punchers chance, and could be an X Factor there, but Cotto no slough either, and Cintron, in my opinion, just doesn't have the mental toughness or confidence a fighter needs to truly excel. He'll likely be near the top of the contenders list. But I do feel he'll always fall short in the big fights.
     
  10. bennyj

    bennyj Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lance, I really think Hatton takes that fight, and i hope it happens after he dismantles Pacman
     
  11. Solid Chin

    Solid Chin Concrete Wars Full Member

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    Only Cotto holds the answer but from what I can see he seems to have the mental capability to come back even better from having lost in such dramatic fashion. I am a Margarito fan but if there is a rematch I think Margarito will be in serious trouble because Cotto will not make those same mistakes again and the only mistake he made was sitting on the ropes for too long and eating bodyshots...I love both fighters they are both warriors so whoever won the rematch I am completely fine with the result.
     
  12. homebrand

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    The thing about the Margarito fight was, there was either no plan B, or Cotto didn't have the ability to change his own tactics to deal with Margarito.

    It seemed obvious to me that even though Cotto was stealing the odd (maybe even most) rounds by punching then retreating, it wasn't going to work over the full distance - the constant retreating just served to lessen Cotto's presence and give Margarito more and more confidence to come forward and keep on attacking.

    I'm guessing also the original plan of the Cotto camp - that is to fire off some punches and then get the hell out of there - was really an admission of Cotto's chinc in his armour: namely awesome fighter though he is, when he gets hit by a good shot, he gets in trouble and doesn't recover so well.

    The only way he has a chance of winning in a rematch is to take the fight to Margerito more and force him back. Impose himself more. The trouble with this is, of course, Margarito's chin would appear to be made of solid granite.

    Similarily, if Hagler and Hearns go toe to toe, Hearns would have a chance, but you'd have to put money on Hagler, purely on his ability to take a punch.

    Cotto has a chance if he really works overtime on his stamina and speed - perhaps he should look at some Calzaghe videos. Because perhaps one of the things he has over Margarito is speed. If he keeps up a high work rate over the full distance, barrages and pressures Margarito with more flurries without retreating so much, then he could get a decision.

    But without markedly improving his fitness to a much higher level, if Cotto was to take on a rematch, Margarito is going to win 8 or 9 times out of ten.
     
  13. Lance_Uppercut

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    I'd love to see it too. But I just don't see it happening. Hatton has never looked as good as he did since he fought Tszyu. The Lazcano fight SHOULD have been an easier win, but he was actually rocked in that fight. And Lazcano isn't known for any power. Then you look at how often Paulie M was able to land that left hook on Hatton. Cotto's left is faster and harder. He could stop Hatton if he connects as often as Paulie did. That left seems to be Hatton's achilles heal.

    As for Pac, Hatton could win. But dismantle? Highly doubtful. Hatton's not dismantling someone of Pac's caliber.
     
  14. bennyj

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    I wonder how pacman will like those murderous left to the body?
     
  15. Solid Chin

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    Great assessment, however, when it comes to the whole fitmess and stamina issues, I think Cotto would find himself in exactly the same predicament because he is effectively having to do more to hold of a bigger guy and after 8 rounds he would start to slow, he did look a bit meaty around the old waistline for that fight but I dont think training for more stamina would help because if he did then the snap in his punches would not be quite the same. Its the age old story of explosiveness over a shorter distance or stamina and less pop over a longer distance. I think Cotto would serve himself well in the next fight by taking leaf out of Floyd Mayweathers book, he needs to keep turning Margarito, all he was doing was firing and moving off but not circling his opponent. Floyd did this perfectly in his fight against Corrales...Eventually when your fighting a guy like Margarito your going to be forced into his office at some point during the fight.