Floyd Mayweather Jr Doesnt Need Margarito

Margo is a plodder his footwork is poor. He couldn't even cut off the ring against Cotto until he was tired. If Cotto was able to give Margo a boxing lesson until he got tired then PBF who is even a better boxer and better defensively with better stamina and chin will do the same but for 12 not 5 like Cotto.

 

the point is margarito is carved out of wood and if he can walk through floyd's early shots and can land it could get interesting.

you can never underestimate someone like that.

 

I understand all of that. But what you failt to realize is Margo is very limted and he can't beat a fighter like PBF with his style.

To beat a guy like Margo you need to be like the following types of fighters. Fighter one Bigger than him able to outwork him and stand up to his attack like Paul Williams. Fighter two be a defensive counter-puncher like PBF use movement make Margo miss counter him and take little punishement. Margo can't deal with movement he wants you to stand and trade he's not effective if he has to move his feet they need to be set in order for him to get off. He will be constantly reseting against PBF. Cotto made Margo look amatuerish at times in their fight. PBF who is a master defensive counter-puncher will stick and move on Margo all night long and keep the fight in the center of the ring where he can beat Margo to the punch and control the distance. Margo relies on his opponents to get tired but that won't be the case when he's fighting someone with just as good or if not better stamina than he has. PBF won't fade like Cotto he doesn't know the word. Margo also is a slow starter and PBF will win the first 6 rounds before Margo is even in the fight. He will be frustrated by PBF's superior movement and handspeed. Margo will beg PBF to stand in trade but unlike Cotto PBF won't oblidge him. He'll just crack him with another straight right hand for the 200th time and be back out of range before Margo can do anything about it. Another assest PBF has is he can fight off the ropes unlike Cotto who caught hell there. He can counter Margo's slow looping shots that he'll see from a mile away all night long there or make him miss or block them.

PBF won't lose to a wide open guy with slow handspeed no jab and plooding footwork. He's simply to good for that. Margo doesn't have one-shot KO power he looks to wear you down and he won't land enough on PBF for that to happen. PBF will land the cleaner harder shots. Margo will keep coming forward but the judges will see it as a boxing lesson. PBF by UD:deal

 

10****in4!

 

this is as far as i read.

the reason for that is that you're a floyd fan from way back and no matter what god honest truth people even suggest....you won't listen to it.

leave the board, make something of yourself on a par to the fighter that you're trying (all the time) to build up, and stop cheapening yourself by being this online avatar for floyd mayweather just because he is a super fighter - and you put him on a pedestal above and beyond what you've achieved.

you're living your life through this guy and that's not a good thing.

this is my last post for tonight.

 

I'm not living my life through anyone. This is a boxing forum we come here to discuss boxing sorry that you didn't realize that.

 

Your assessment is a good one, however, your referring to a Floyd Mayweather of old, the Floyd Mayweather who will be fighting if he does choose to fight wont be as sharp due to the inactivity, and even if he had 2 warm up fights which I doubt he still wouldn't be as sharp if he had remained active.

And for a start you cant base what a fight would be like from you seeing Floyd do that to other opponents because look at what happened to Oscar, how many people thought Oscar would wack the living daylights out of Pacquiao or how many people saw the Hopkins performance against Calzaghe and thought that Pavlik would wipe the floor with him, there was even talk about Pavlik being the 1st man to stop Hopkins.

what about Holt vs Torres, who in a million years could have predicted that outcome.

You cant just judge a fight based off of what you think Floyd has been able to get away with doing for so long.

There is so many more factors involved in a fight to just break it down into simple black and white.

I can guarantee you that if Floyd thought that this fight would be as easy as you make the fight out to be for him, he would have taken it at the time when it was offered to him because he had nothing really to lose from taking an easy 8 million payday so you really do need to re-assess that.

I do however think that it was a good assessment based on Mayweathers 39 previous opponents but we will only know what would really go down come the night of the fight

I mean there is so many factors that could change the outcome of a fight.

1. Clash of heads causing a cut or a cut opening from a punch taking away the fighters concentration

2. Low Blows, taking away the fighters concentration

3. Constant hitting behind the head, which definetly affects a fighter eventually

4. Broken nose, breathing would become limited

5. Referee favouring the other fighter

6. Very bad judging

7. The size of the ring

8. Choice of gloves

9. A fighter hurting their hand/s during the fight

Those are a few off the top of my head but a perfect example of a cut taking away a fighters concentration was in the Diaz vs Campbell fight.

As soon as he received that cut, he was more concerned about avoiding another head butt or punch to the affected area rather than on what he should have been doing which was fighting his own fight...

 

Yet you have the time to post a self typed article instead.

How is he not comfortable fighting Cotto?, we went through this already and instead of changing my opinion with actual facts you come back with your opinion. That's hardly a response and your opinion is NOT a fact, it's just your opinion. What I gave you was a list of facts that DID INDEED happen back then.

Like when Mayweather approached Cotto at 140, he was still green, please note that Mayweather was also with Arum at the time(don't think you even know that). Then when Cotto moved up and was still considered a new Welterweight in need of a serious test the talks about fighting Mayweather were still off the table. It was only when he beat Mosley and Mayweather retired that he all of a sudden came out and called him out. Did he do any of that when Mayweather was active?, no, he was still "green" when Mayweather was active, remember?

Also, fighting Cotto now is worth nothing, Cotto's recent fight and already scheduled/planned future are the reasons.

Mayweather never really officially called him out, he claimed that Cotto would have been an option since Hatton wanted no part of it and wanted more fights to be ready. Then he admitted his self without the need to call Cotto out that Cotto is still new and Cotto's team didn't disagree.

Already answered it numerous times, you're the one who has issues with your eyes.

Who was Margarito's biggest win at the time and what did Margarito offer in comparison to the lineal/WBC/#1 spot Baldomir offered?

You answer me that one. Margarito's only claim to fame at the time was calling Mayweather out and his 8million offer.

Margarito offered the WBOgus paper title(when there is a lineal champion and undisputed/unified champion on the division whoever else holds a title is a paper champion, surely you know that), $8million and a **** poor resume with Kermit Cintron and Manuel Gomez being the biggest wins.

Baldomir offered the WBC/Lineal/#1 spot, $8million and wins over WBC/WBA/IBF unified champion Zab Judah, Joshua Clottey and Arturro Gatti.

Who was better?, answer me that please and I have yet another question far worse than this situation which I want you to answer.

Paul Williams offered $4million dollars and a WIN over Margarito.

Shane Mosley offered $2million dollars and a LOSS to Cotto(the man Margarito recently destroyed) in his last Welterweight fight.

Why did the warrior spirit and gladiator pick Mosley?, sure a gladiator who's mentality is pure warrior in the ring and out of it(according to you) would be the one running after a loss he considered BULL****. Right?, why was the decision changed?, give me a straight forward answer without complete bull**** excuses like "Margarito offered a rematch and didn't get it".

Oh and please don't ask for links from me, seeing as you don't have the time to post links to back up your OPINION yet still have the time to post an article yourself I wouldn't bother to offer any either. :good

The majority of Margarito's wins seemed to be mismatches, the Cotto fight started to look like a mismatch from round 4, Cintron fights were mismatches all the way, Manuel Gomez fight was a mismatch, Andrew "Six heads zero chins" Lewis was a mismatch, Lujan fight was a mismatch and SHITLOADS more.

The only few recent fights that I wouldn't count mismatches were the Clottey fight and Williams(loss).

Even his next two fights seem to be mismatches, Mosley and Cotto II.

You point fingers at Mayweather yet know nothing about Margarito his self and if Mayweather made some of those opponents look like mismatches at least the majority of them had size advantage. He wasn't really picking on smaller guys like Margarito and Mayweather showed class A skills in dominating them, skills that put him at #1 P4P. If Margarito has been fighting the best of the best then why wasn't even even CLOSE to the P4P list back then?

Oh and please don't tell me Mayweather reached that status because he fights on HBO, you already embarrassed yourself saying that once.

That was a bull**** statement cut out of the entire interview to make Mayweather sound bad, nothing else.

Even if you want to believe that I have a list of proof where Margarito is exposed of doing that, though in failing fashion.

- Deciding it's okay to move up to 154 to fight DLH for money and ONLY that yet refusing to fight Santos, a man that beat him at 154.

- Deciding to fight Mosley for HALF the amount another guy who ALSO beat him offered, Paul Williams, clearly to make lesser yet easier money.

- Again refusing the Williams fight and confirming it by making Cotto his immediate opponent right after Mosley, as confident as he is to come out victorious.

Sounds like the gladiator who would spit on money when it comes to pride?, don't think so!

J.Chavez
Castillo X2
Corrales
Hatton
DLH
G.Hernandez
Gatti
Corley
Judah
Baldomir
N'Dou

Let's compare those "soft touches" and "no threats" to...

Manuel Gomez
Kermit Cintron
Miguel Cotto
Hercules
Lujan
Clottey

Please note that nearly ALL of those are guys he had size advantage over. Serious threats for sure.

Isn't Margarito doing the EXACT same thing right after his VERY FIRST major win?, yet it's very easy to take him seriously, right? :yep

 

Movement and defense is running?, do you even know about styles in boxing?

I see how Cotto proving the gladiator mentality and standing straight up helped him succeed in his last fight.

 

Though if he wins by making Margarito miss all night and punch air he ran, right? :good

 

Scar, I will have to respond to this tomorrow because this post be mad long...lol, my brain is fried I need to sleep...

 

You need to get over Floyd.

 

You make some good points as well, fair post.:good

 

Not really Hopkins was 43 years old and past his prime.

 

Mayweathers win over Hatton is perfectly fine, nothing would of changed at 140. Both would of weighed the same thing they did on fight night.